Thor vs Superman (Pure strength)

Originally posted by carver9
Superman needed help...Ultraman did it with ease.

On average, almost certainly on par. Push comes to shove, I'd give the nod to Superman barring shit like Warrior Madness, all-out etc. Just makes stuff more complicated.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
u completely missed the point i made

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Tactile-telekinesis is not 'non-sense'.

It's a great explanation for how he can lift huge shit, without the objects' own weight collapsing in on itself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's done it twice, slowing down the fall of spectre along with diana.

I remember that page of Clark & Diana apparently slowing the weight of infinity, as that is what the Spectre is supposed to weigh. And let the Spectre crashes and lands on a lunar surface. Strange how something that weighed as much as infinity didn't smash right through the surface and keep on going. It's comics logic.

Originally posted by roughrider
I remember that page of Clark & Diana apparently slowing the weight of infinity, as that is what the Spectre is supposed to weigh. And let the Spectre crashes and lands on a lunar surface. Strange how something that weighed as much as infinity didn't smash right through the surface and keep on going. It's comics logic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who cares? It's comics, that's all the explanation needed.

The writer(s) obviously cared enough to create the explanation.

Giving an explanation for the impossible is not the angle that can be called, 'nonsense', logically.

Superman lifting a mountain = nonsense.

Superman lifting a mountain because his tactile tk allows him to spread the force over the entire mass = oh wow. clever idea.

If you want to just turn off your brain to logic in comics, (which is fine) at least be consistent about it. Afterall. You are trying to push here that lifting 'half of infinity' is equivalent to lifting full 'infinity' because logically it should be. But guess what? 'It's comics'. 🙂

Superman needed help and struggled, Ultraman did not. It's non-sense, focus on quantifiable feats (Especially since Thor has a feat or two regarding something as stupid as 'infinite' weight as well). In which case, Superman should still have the edge.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You got that right. It's comics. Kal also held a black hole in his hand while standing.

When?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
The writer(s) obviously cared enough to create the explanation.

Giving an explanation for the impossible is not the angle that can be called, 'nonsense', logically.

Superman lifting a mountain = nonsense.

Superman lifting a mountain because his tactile tk allows him to spread the force over the entire mass = oh wow. clever idea.

If you want to just turn off your brain to logic in comics, (which is fine) at least be consistent about it. Afterall. You are trying to push here that lifting 'half of infinity' is equivalent to lifting full 'infinity' because logically it should be. But guess what? 'It's comics'. 🙂

Superman needed help and struggled, Ultraman did not. It's non-sense, focus on quantifiable feats (Especially since Thor has a feat or two regarding something as stupid as 'infinite' weight as well). In which case, Superman should still have the edge.

Originally posted by carver9
When?

Originally posted by abhilegend
JLA 77.

I knew you was talking about that. Post the entire scene so everyone can see it. I want to start it off by saying "the black hole was contained". Now post the rest.

On average Superman is stronger
At highest Superman is stronger

Most say by a little but I say by a lot. My reasoning is that I base the highest quantifiable feat as a character's strength level. Some go by averages (I don't).

Superman has quantifiable feats exceeding 50 Earth weights of force.
I'm not sure if Thor has any quantifiable feats above 1 Earth weight.

Originally posted by carver9
I knew you was talking about that. Post the entire scene so everyone can see it. I want to start it off by saying "the black hole was contained". Now post the rest.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg

Originally posted by h1a8
On average Superman is stronger
At highest Superman is stronger

Most say by a little but I say by a lot. My reasoning is that I base the highest quantifiable feat as a character's strength level. Some go by averages (I don't).

Superman has quantifiable feats exceeding 50 Earth weights of force.
I'm not sure if Thor has any quantifiable feats above 1 Earth weight.

So you're saying Superman is at least 50x stronger than Thor?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wrong as usual.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg

Post the rest. It's stated on panel that the containment field was slowly depleting while it was in Superman hands.

Originally posted by h1a8
On average Superman is stronger
At highest Superman is stronger

Most say by a little but I say by a lot. My reasoning is that I base the highest quantifiable feat as a character's strength level. Some go by averages (I don't).

Superman has quantifiable feats exceeding 50 Earth weights of force.
I'm not sure if Thor has any quantifiable feats above 1 Earth weight.

Originally posted by vince_slice
So you're saying Superman is at least 50x stronger than Thor?

Originally posted by h1a8
On average I would say about 3-5 times. But at best I would say more than 1000x

So how much stronger is a GL over Thor since he aided in pulling the 50 Times Earth weight (lol).?

Originally posted by carver9
Post the rest. It's stated on panel that the containment field was slowly depleting while it was in Superman hands.

Originally posted by carver9
So how much stronger is a GL over Thor since he aided in pulling the 50 Times Earth weight (lol).?

Assuming the GL did half the pulling then it would be the same.