Thor & Hercules Vs Thanos

Originally posted by lilshogun
You are under estamating Thanos. Have you recalled a superb battle between Thanos and Odin where Thanos in Asgard was taking alot of Odin's blast and still enjoying it. Do you recall when Thanos' body was damaged and a few sec his body was back to normal? Thanos durability in uncanny and with his physiology, he has absolute control down to his molecules. This guy was able to stand with Odin his his realm.

You do know what Plot induced Stupidity is right? Superman resisted being crushed by a black hole, without retaining any injuries of the sort, while Thanos was cut, bruised, and needed to be operated upon. Who then is more durable? All the same this is all speculation, because there has yet to be any solid proof that Thor was amplified during his battle with Thanos. I won't state my reasons again, if you have a question, and you don't understand. Go back and read my reasons. Also the battle that you are referring to was more of an outright onesided domination, Odin was not injured at all while Thanos was bounced around like a beachball.

Originally posted by Stoic
You do know what Plot induced Stupidity is right? Superman resisted being crushed by a black hole, without retaining any injuries of the sort, while Thanos was cut, bruised, and needed to be operated upon. Who then is more durable? All the same this is all speculation, because there has yet to be any solid proof that Thor was amplified during his battle with Thanos. I won't state my reasons again, if you have a question, and you don't understand. Go back and read my reasons.

Thanos needed to be operated on... don't recall that.

Having the Power Gem means it amplified him.

Originally posted by Stoic

You are the very definition of the word.

The simple facts are you are saying Thor wasnt amped by the PG, yet it was stated he was on panel. It amped him to the degree he steamed through Dr Strange,Surfer and The Infinty Watch with ease and before you start babbling on about what percent did it amp him i want you to show me where it has to be quantified on KMC and to what degree it amped him to be used as a valid feat.

You obviously have trouble understanding the concept of the word subconscious vs active. Since I now understand your disability, I will stop repeating myself. Low-balling or outright lying would be me saying that Thanos beat Odin, or drew even with him. Or, saying that Thor can beat Thanos, and he and Hercules would win against him in a fight. I already said that Thanos wins this thread by a margin of 6-7/10 with tech, while without tech they should draw even if we consider Thor and Herc's best showings.

I am not trolling by questioning the validity of whether or not Thor was actively using the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos, when it stated on panel that he was using it on a subconscious level. This as I pointed out to many already is the key word. Subconsciously does not mean actively. This means that he was not walking around 100% of the time, at infinite levels. I am right, and you are wrong. Until you show solid proof that he was using the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos, the battle is up for debate as is Thor using the Power gem during the conflict. This does not mean that during the B&T arc that he did not have a spike in power, which was on panel. That is not what is in question. I hope that you can understand this, you likely can not, and thus all of what I just typed was a huge waste of time.

If Odin and Thanos were to switch places, and Thanos threw Odin around like Odin threw Thanos around, you and Quanchi would be saying that Thanos kicked his teeth in. For the record, I would be saying the same.

As i thought just more of the same f*cking bullshit and ignore what was said and shown on panel.

Youre a complete joke.

Originally posted by Nihilist
As i thought just more of the same f*cking bullshit and ignore what was said and shown on panel.

Youre a complete joke.

When did it say that Thor was tapping from the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos? Show me or stop b1tching about it.

Originally posted by Stoic
When did it say that Thor was tapping from the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos? Show me or stop b1tching about it.

Thats is unless of course you think he just stopped drawing from the gem when he only fought Thanos..😂 of course thats what u think,idiot.

Originally posted by Stoic
When did it say that Thor was tapping from the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos? Show me or stop b1tching about it.

It didn't. It's all speculation.

Originally posted by carver9
It didn't. It's all speculation.

Jesus...

Originally posted by Nihilist
It stated he was tapping into it even before he fought Thanos and even after Thanos force blocked Thor, Thanos said he was still drawing from the gem and would be at their throats at no time.

Thats is unless of course you think he just stopped drawing from the gem when he only fought Thanos..😂 of course thats what u think,idiot.

How about when he was fighting Thanos. I don't care about the before, or the after, I am asking about the fight. Are you slow? Or just bullsh1tting as usual? He used the Gem on a subconscious level. This means that he was not on the level 100% of the time. The Champion was able to use the Power gem better than Thor, and even he was stated to be tapping the Power Gem on the subconscious level. In that battle thanos said that he was nearly done for, and then the Champion stopped punching. This is what we call PIS. As was the Runner stopping his assault. What would've happened if the Runner said, F-You Thanos, I'm going to turn you into a skid mark and continued assaulting Thanos? Now that's LOL worthy.

Originally posted by Stoic
How about when he was fighting Thanos. I don't care about the before, or the after, I am asking about the fight. Are you slow? Or just bullsh1tting as usual? He used the Gem on a subconscious level. This means that he was not on the level 100% of the time. The Champion was able to use the Power gem better than Thor, and even he was stated to be tapping the Power Gem on the subconscious level. In that battle thanos said that he was nearly done for, and then the Champion stopped punching. This is what we call PIS. As was the Runner stopping his assault. What would of happened if the Runner said, F-You Thanos, I'm going to turn you into a skid mark and continued assaulting Thanos? Now that's LOL worthy.

So your stance is he stopped using the gem when he fought Thanos then!

Originally posted by carver9
It didn't. It's all speculation.

Originally posted by Nihilist
lulz Pathetic attempt at a real answer.

So your stance is he stopped using the gem when he fought Thanos then!

No my stance is that he never understood the way of how to use the Power gem, and he only tapped it randomly. If it said that Thor had gained mastery of the Power Gem, we wouldn't be arguing, but it never said this. You simply have no solid evidence that Thor was using it, and if there was, someone would have provided scans of their battle that proved that he was. This however can not be found, because it does not exist.

Originally posted by Stoic
No my stance is that he never understood the way of how to use the Power gem, and he only tapped it randomly. If it said that Thor had gained mastery of the Power Gem, we wouldn't be arguing, but it never said this. You simply have no solid evidence that Thor was using it, and if there was, someone would have provided scans of their battle that proved that he was. This however can not be found, because it does not exist.

Yeah youre a troll.

Thor has a habit of holding back tremendously and there isn't anything indicated that Thor wasn't holding back against Thanos in their previous fights. Blood and Thunder Thor consisted of a PISSED, non-holding back Thor that was out for blood. Thanos never fought the real deal until he fought Thor during B&T. There was nothing stated that Thor used the gem. A non-holding back Thor has damaged abstracts so him giving Thanos a run without dipping into the gem shouldn't be unbelievable.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So Thor taking and dishing out far more punishment than he did before against Thanos is proof when its added to several on panel statements and showings.

Yeah youre a troll.

Thor was fighting in a state of pure rage during his battle with Thanos in B&T. This was not the same state of mind that he was in prior to that battle. it has been proven that can take it up several notches when he is not holding back, and going for the kill. he did this with Nul, and won that fight, but stalemated with the Savage Hulk while fighting in a more civil manner. There is a difference, and you know this.

Do you think that I care what you call me? Are you a grown man, or a high school child?

The power gem always amps someone subconsciously. It's a constant amp that can only get bigger.
If Drax is always amped... hell, if Hood can put himself on a level able to completely destroy Rulk, then it isn't just a small little amp.
Thor resisted the karmic blast and ran through a very very powerful team of 'peers'.

It's only when you get people that can actually control the gems that you get very large Cosmic level amps... even though we haven't seen someone like Thanos, Magus, or Warlock just using the Power Gem by itself without any other gems around.

People think it's a low feat for Odin to not put down Thanos, but when you look at the whole arc, you see Odin beating the shit out of a being who stood up to a Power Gem Thor (who was far above a team of Surfer, Drax, Maxam, Dr Strange, and Adam Warlock with the Soul Gem).

As for the thread... meh.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor has a habit of holding back tremendously and there isn't anything indicated that Thor wasn't holding back against Thanos in their previous fights. Blood and Thunder Thor consisted of a PISSED, non-holding back Thor that was out for blood. Thanos never fought the real deal until he fought Thor during B&T. There was nothing stated that Thor used the gem. A non-holding back Thor has damaged abstracts so him giving Thanos a run without dipping into the gem shouldn't be unbelievable.

lol

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
The power gem always amps someone subconsciously. It's a constant amp that can only get bigger.
If Drax is always amped... hell, if Hood can put himself on a level able to completely destroy Rulk, then it isn't just a small little amp.
Thor resisted the karmic blast and ran through a very very powerful team of 'peers'.

It's only when you get people that can actually control the gems that you get very large Cosmic level amps... even though we haven't seen someone like Thanos, Magus, or Warlock just using the Power Gem by itself without any other gems around.

People think it's a low feat for Odin to not put down Thanos, but when you look at the whole arc, you see Odin beating the shit out of a being who stood up to a Power Gem Thor (who was far above a team of Surfer, Drax, Maxam, Dr Strange, and Adam Warlock with the Soul Gem).

As for the thread... meh.

Okay this is a fair assessment, but there is a hole. How did Thor put Drax with the Power Gem down, and take the Power Gem from him? That same Drax nearly killed the Silver Surfer when they first met and he did not possess the Power Gem, and Thor just had a huge battle with the Surfer. Was it just crappy writing? Big holes can be blown in any statement, but solid evidence that Thor was using the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos is still non existent.