Thor & Hercules Vs Thanos

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay this is a fair assessment, but there is a hole. How did Thor put Drax with the Power Gem down, and take the Power Gem from him? That same Drax nearly killed the Silver Surfer when they first met and he did not possess the Power Gem, and Thor just had a huge battle with the Surfer. Was it just crappy writing? Big holes can be blown in any statement, but solid evidence that Thor was using the Power Gem during his battle with Thanos is still non existent.

The only evidence you need is him having it. The Power Gem doesn't suddenly stop amping you. Ridiculous assertion to say the least.

Good question, the Crusade was about the time that Drax did have possession of the Power gem. What would this imply if he did have possession of the Gem?

Would you say that Thor was also written incredibly high during his battle with Nul, and the Thing <--(forgot his Serpent moniker)? Could that just be how powerful Thor is when he is going for the kill?

I'm going to go ahead and re-read B&T in a little while, and once i have, I will come back, and give my concession on the subject, or remain unconvinced, and still believing that Thor was indeed fighting under his own power.

1. Was Galactus exerting power on the level of infinite power when he nearly cooked Thanos alive while behind shields on panel?

2. Was Odin exerting power equal or greater than a Power Gem wielder when he flexed, and broke out of Thanos' force block with relative ease?

3. Was the Galactus Thanosi exerting power equal to an adept Power Gem wielder when he nearly killed Thanos with his assault?

Keep in mind that this is a forum dispute, and that you need to throw out PIS, and go with what the Power Gem implies will give it's user.

Power Gem - Red.
Accesses all power and energy that ever has or will exist, and can back the other gems and boost their effects. Allows the user to duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability and become invincible.

team wins easily

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It's only when you get people that can actually control the gems that you get very large Cosmic level amps... even though we haven't seen someone like Thanos, Magus, or Warlock just using the Power Gem by itself without any other gems around.

Thor was using the Gem subconsciously. There should be no debate that he was amped at all.

I'm not saying he had unlimited power, but saying he wasn't tapping into the gem at all is straight up denial.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thor was using the Gem subconsciously. There should be no debate that he was amped at all.

I'm not saying he had unlimited power, but saying he wasn't tapping into the gem at all is straight up denial.

Thor was using the Power Gem subconsciously, not actively, and thus he may not have been using the Gem when he was fighting Thanos. Is there a chance that he was not? What evidence is there, other than opinion that he was? Was it on panel? If it was expressively, or otherwise written on panel saying that Thor was actively tapping into the Power gem during the battle then that would mean that without a doubt, that he was using the Gem. Does it say this anywhere?

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor was using the Power Gem subconsciously, not actively, and thus he may not have been using the Gem when he was fighting Thanos. Is there a chance that he was not? What evidence is there, other than opinion that he was? Was it on panel? If it was expressively, or otherwise written on panel saying that Thor was actively tapping into the Power gem during the battle then that would mean that without a doubt, that he was using the Gem. Does it say this anywhere?

I guess they gave Thor the gem before the toughest battle of the arc so - and get this because it's really genious - but they gave Thor the gem right before the Thanos battle so HE DIDN'T USE THE GEM. Mind blowing stuff!

Hood was using the gem subconsciously, so therefore I'm going to need proof that he used it to beat the shit out of Rulk. Doesn't that sound like pretty good logic?

What subconsciously using something means is that you don't fully realize you're using it. It doesn't mean it wasn't actively used, it means it wasn't used to its best potential. It's what every Gem user has ever done with the thing. If you have the Power Gem, you're using it. The only people on panel who we theorize could use it fully is Warlock, Magus, and Thanos.

Thor was amped.

Problem solved.

team stomps quite easily. thanos really hasn't done anything worth mentioning without prep or being amped.

Originally posted by Stoic
Still lacking proof.

You are the very definition of the word.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor was fighting in a state of pure rage during his battle with Thanos in B&T. This was not the same state of mind that he was in prior to that battle. it has been proven that can take it up several notches when he is not holding back, and going for the kill. he did this with Nul, and won that fight, but stalemated with the Savage Hulk while fighting in a more civil manner. There is a difference, and you know this.

Do you think that I care what you call me? Are you a grown man, or a high school child?

Everthing on panel>>>>>>>youre lowballin troll opinion.

The problem is assigning a value higher than 2x for Thor with the PG when in fact it was never shown that Thor's strength exceeding twice his normal limits. But that doesn't mean he wasn't amped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, even hardcore Thor fans admit he was amped. No one buys what you're selling. It's amusing to say the least but it just shows how far you are willing to go to attack Lord Thanos.

Nah! Thor wasn't amped 😆

(seriously, never thought of that till now..)

From here on, I therefore claim that Thor wasn't amped while fighting Thanos during the B&T arc 😆 😛

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Nah! Thor wasn't amped 😆

(seriously, never thought of that till now..)

From here on, I therefore claim that Thor wasn't amped while fighting Thanos during the B&T arc 😆 😛

He was amped, just not enough to be relevant in this fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
He was amped, just not enough to be relevant in this fight.

Sure he could, if he's "going all out" and getting a small amp from the PG.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure he could, if he's "going all out" and getting a small amp from the PG.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was significantly amped. Regular Thor can't take on Surfer, the watch, and Strange like they were a jv team.

If they fought the same way then a normal Thor fighting relentlessly would do exactly the same thing, minus backlash the beam sent to him by Strange and Warlock.

Get out of the faulty logic of what and get into the how.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So a small amp can defeat classic strange, the watch. and the surfer with ease ? You really need to start reading comics.

Originally posted by h1a8
If they fought the same way then a normal Thor fighting relentlessly would do exactly the same thing, minus backlash the beam sent to him by Strange and Warlock.

Get out of the faulty logic of what and get into the how.