even reg creel is usually defeated via plot device aka his own stupidity. earth x am was a monster and he didn't have the added asgardian power. i had to wonder though why creel didn't simply remain uru (like his hammer) the whole time. no reason he couldn't as he has absorbed the properties of thor's hammer in the past. uru am + hammer=baddddd news for kal. and almost anyone.
Originally posted by leonidas
even reg creel is usually defeated via plot device aka his own stupidity. earth x am was a monster and he didn't have the added asgardian power. i had to wonder though why creel didn't simply remain uru (like his hammer) the whole time. no reason he couldn't as he has absorbed the properties of thor's hammer in the past. uru am + hammer=baddddd news for kal. and almost anyone.
Originally posted by abhilegend
^Why doesn't creel absorb his hammer's properties. I guess that's why CIS is necessary, otherwise its just cbr.
i....have no idea what you're saying. i guess he didn't simply absorb his hammer's properties because of pis. nor did he really need to. he and titania were never really challenged at all. in any bevent, cis of course is not an issue in this fight. he's absorbed mjolnir before. the q-bands. cap's shield. primary adamantium. there is no logical reason at all he couldn't just absorb the properties of his own hammer. if you want to simply say 'he can't/won't because he never did', well, that's your choice. but there is absolutely no logical reason he couldn't do so.
Originally posted by leonidas
i....have no idea what you're saying. i guess he didn't simply absorb his hammer's properties because of pis. nor did he really need to. he and titania were never really challenged at all. in any bevent, cis of course is not an issue in this fight. he's absorbed mjolnir before. the q-bands. cap's shield. primary adamantium. there is no logical reason at all he couldn't just absorb the properties of his own hammer. if you want to simply say 'he can't/won't because he never did', well, that's your choice. but there is absolutely no logical reason he couldn't do so.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That only proves that he can use multiple powers at once. Not really, lightning lad and lass are incredibly powerful and phasing through their attacks doesn't mean anything. Yes it's not conclusive but its a very impressive feat. You don't care for anyone's feats other than thor anyway.😎
Eh? You argued that it was evidence of him using Ultra-boy's durability, his very dialogue destroys that notion being a certainty. I didn't re-read the scene yet but didn't the Shape-Shifter as well hurt him with a blast?
Okay?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Just indicative, nothing conclusive. Too bad for creel. Why its no longer an issue, can you clarify? IIRC it wasn't an involuntary transformation but he was tricked and unable to reform from the scattered part of his body. He can't just reform from anything, daredevil once just cracked his diamond body to defeat him and unless this "smarting up" rendered every showing of creel losing invalid, its still applicable. You are happy for clark, it must be end of the world. Why counter-vibrations of course. Seriously did creel teleported anywhere or we are just assuming that he was capable of it like kuurth? He can still ko creel using some ice coating on his hands courtesy of freeze breath.
Nothing conclusive? I'm sorry, but the writer made it pretty clear that Creel had a boost in intelligence, this isn't up for debate. Pretty sure that Creel can consciously chooses what he absorbs at this point, can't trick him like that anymore. With the added regeneration/durability of the Serpent and increased respect, I'm going to give him slightly more benefit of the doubt than usual, possible though I guess but absolute physical annihilation is almost assuredly Clark's best bet (Temporary in the long run though).
Haha, counter vibrations? I was just going by Creel's more consistent good showings, I guess there's no reason for me to be on the fence.
All the Worthy hammers can teleport, create energy blasts, fly, have worthy enchantments etc. Standard Asgardian protocol. IIRC, he and/or Titania opened up a portal to the Infinity Mansion, I think Sin might have as well.
Creative and cute but try again.
He should be able to absorb the properties of a force field, irrelevant though as it's definitely not standard equipment.
I remember Quasar erecting a force field only for him to absorb Adamantium properties (On a small piece he keeps on him) to break out. Not conclusive one way or another unfortunately.
I really don't see Kal getting incredibly creative and resorting to unconventional means to beat Creel, at least not in a random first encounter. I think by the time that Kal realized just how out of the box he had to work, Creel may have likely already beaten him. Even with common knowledge, which I think would extend to just standard Creel, and not Worthy Creel, Kal would be in for a fight.
Originally posted by cdtm
I was thinking it'd be easier to just freeze him conventionally. Than, if he absorbs it, he can shatter his body, otherwise he'd be trapped..
how would absorbing it help him break out of it....? 😕
and he wouldn't need to anyway since he was strong enough to simply break free. this would require some creatvity from kal to win.