Originally posted by carver9
What does that have to do with then switching bodies and Superman feeling more strength in Bizarro body. He didn't make the same remark when him and Powergirl switched bodies.
Exactly....some people will say it dosen't mean anything, but Superman said it and I beleive him when he says Bizzaro maybe stronger. Some people don't agree with it, because Superman is saying something they don't want to hear. 😎
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeI could not have said it better myself.
Exactly....some people will say it dosen't mean anything, but Superman said it and I beleive him when he says Bizzaro maybe stronger. Some people don't agree with it, because Superman is saying something they don't want to hear. 😎
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeI believe Superman was telling the truth as well. 👆
Exactly....some people will say it dosen't mean anything, but Superman said it and I beleive him when he says Bizzaro maybe stronger. Some people don't agree with it, because Superman is saying something they don't want to hear. 😎
Superman's comments can be tricky. He is a fairly humble guy and pretty nice, but at the same time, when push comes to shove, he's not above flat out telling someone he's stronger or more powerful than they are. If overall feats and history seem to be backing up a comment he made (or really anyone made), I'm inclined to take them at their word.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman's comments can be tricky. He is a fairly humble guy and pretty nice, but at the same time, when push comes to shove, he's not above flat out telling someone he's stronger or more powerful than they are. If overall feats and history seem to be backing up a comment he made (or really anyone made), I'm inclined to take them at their word.
But the thing is he wasn't talking to anyone, but himself. Why would he lie to himself??? He was speaking out loud. He was amazed at Bizzaro's strength.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
But the thing is he wasn't talking to anyone, but himself. Why would he lie to himself??? He was speaking out loud. He was amazed at Bizzaro's strength.
And it's not like he was overestimating Kara Zor El's strength without taking into account how much he holds back, he was actually experiencing Bizarro's powers first hand.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
But the thing is he wasn't talking to anyone, but himself. Why would he lie to himself??? He was speaking out loud. He was amazed at Bizzaro's strength.
Oh, I'm not disputing that at all. I was just commenting on Superman's history of comments.
Generally, he is used as a means to convey how powerful the writers want someone to come off as. If they stagger Superman or cause him to say something like "I've never seen such power!" or "They're the toughest single opponent I've ever faced", I don't think we should take it as the gospel, but they shouldn't be ignored right away. Comments, in general, should be examined and taken at a case-by-case basis.
Originally posted by country1000
That scan has nothing to do with mental blocks. It shows that bizarro's mind wont let him access his full strength, but supermans mind while he is in bizarro's body lets superman access it. Superman does not have mental blocks that regulate his strength, he holds back because he does not want to hurt regular peoples, yet when faced with the likes of black adam, wonder woman ( mind warped ) he HAS to use his full strength. Superman does not have a powerset like hulk or gladiator, We have seen superman go all out many times and his strength has never increased unless he sun amps. A non holding back superman could not even overpower black adam
. You are confusing (hero time to win) with this false strength increase mind block thing..... Creel wins.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/adventuresof636a.jpg
You are talking about this when Kal said he doesn't have to hold back AS MUCH as he usually does
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM4.jpg
Funny thing is once he really stopped holding back adam gave up the fight.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM9.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM10.jpg
When did you see superman going all out except mind control where he didn't gained an enormous strength edge? I give you such an example
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/pic014.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/pic016.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/pic020.jpg
Originally posted by JakeTheBankSuperman was not in those people bodies when he made those comments. He felt the guys strength and it was greater than his while superman was in his body... big difference.
Oh, I'm not disputing that at all. I was just commenting on Superman's history of comments.Generally, he is used as a means to convey how powerful the writers want someone to come off as. If they stagger Superman or cause him to say something like "I've never seen such power!" or "They're the toughest single opponent I've ever faced", I don't think we should take it as the gospel, but they shouldn't be ignored right away. Comments, in general, should be examined and taken at a case-by-case basis.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Oh, I'm not disputing that at all. I was just commenting on Superman's history of comments.Generally, he is used as a means to convey how powerful the writers want someone to come off as. If they stagger Superman or cause him to say something like "I've never seen such power!" or "They're the toughest single opponent I've ever faced", I don't think we should take it as the gospel, but they shouldn't be ignored right away. Comments, in general, should be examined and taken at a case-by-case basis.
Pretty much. Then there's all the feats and such too.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
But the thing is he wasn't talking to anyone, but himself. Why would he lie to himself??? He was speaking out loud. He was amazed at Bizzaro's strength.
Being amazed by Bizarro's strength doesn't make Bizarro stronger, it just means he was stronger than Superman expected him to be.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Funny thing is once he really stopped holding back adam gave up the fight.http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM9.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM10.jpg
Nothing funny about it, considering Adam wasn't fighting back in the first place.
Originally posted by abhilegendDo you know what a hero do?? They struggle to make a story then they win or pull off the upset because they are the HERO. The villian will not win in the end because they are the bad guy. You want people to accept what lex says but when superman says that blizzaro is stronger, you toss that out huh??? You do know that the very writers have portrayed black adam as stronger than both superman and CM.. Do you wish me to show you?
Lulz. There was an entire arc to show that superman placed several mental blocks after he killed pocket dimension kryptonians (No limits) and it was shown against the imperiex probes. When superman was holding back he was struggling with just one probe, but when he dropped his mental blocks he ran through a bunch of them like tissue paper. Lex luthor and Emil hamilton would disagree with youhttp://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/adventuresof636a.jpg
You are talking about this when Kal said he doesn't have to hold back AS MUCH as he usually does
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM4.jpg
Funny thing is once he really stopped holding back adam gave up the fight.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM9.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM10.jpgWhen did you see superman going all out except mind control where he didn't gained an enormous strength edge? I give you such an example
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/pic014.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/pic016.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/pic020.jpg
Originally posted by -Pr-
Pretty much. Then there's all the feats and such too.Being amazed by Bizarro's strength doesn't make Bizarro stronger, it just means he was stronger than Superman expected him to be.
PR I am not even going to debate this with you. You are a nice guy, but you are too much of a Superman mark. If everyone who has ever written Superman including the creators told you a character was stronger then Superman you would still have an excuse.
Originally posted by cdtm
Nothing funny about it, considering Adam wasn't fighting back in the first place.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM6.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM7.jpg
Anyway its not in black adam's nature to give up a fight. But its a discussion for another thread.
