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Orochimaru vs Kisame
Been wondering about this for a while. I'm not sure who'd take the number 4 spot on Akatsuki's strongest between the two of them. So hey, best argument wins right?
Fight takes place in the area where Team 7 tried to get the bells from Kakashi. Both go into this fresh, no Edo Tensei for Orochimaru.
Who wins? The Shark or the Snake?
Hm, Kisame has a lot of brute power, but Orochimaru's not that bad in that area himself, and he's a good deal more versatile. Also, he doesn't use many pure-chakra techniques for Kisame to eat, having a lot of physical jutsu instead. Stuff like poison, too.
I would tend to give this to Orochimaru on versatility, but good fight.
Originally posted by Q99I actually loled.
Yea, everyone knows the top three are Itachi, Pain, and Hidan.
Kisame is not much slower, is far physically stronger, and has much more chakra. Orochimaru has the edge in raw versatility and intellect though.
Kisame's Water Jutsu can be quite hax though, particularly the big bubble of doom.
Orochimaru is one of the most powerful, intelligent, and versatile characters in all of Naruto. The only thing he lacked was sharingan eyeballs: Danzo took them all. If Orochimaru could have gotten himself some eyeballs, he'd be the most powerful character, by far.
Kisame? He's fairly linear. He's great at fighting against chakra-heavy opponents but against someone with brains or against someone with decent versatility in jutsu? He'd fail. Kisame is generally overrated by his fans...which are just about everyone that likes the Naruto manga.
Originally posted by dadudemonKisame is linear, but he is also much physically stronger, a better fighter, not much slower, and the Jutsus he does have make him a powerhouse.
Orochimaru is one of the most powerful, intelligent, and versatile characters in all of Naruto. The only thing he lacked was sharingan eyeballs: Danzo took them all. If Orochimaru could have gotten himself some eyeballs, he'd be the most powerful character, by far.Kisame? He's fairly linear. He's great at fighting against chakra-heavy opponents but against someone with brains or against someone with decent versatility in jutsu? He'd fail. Kisame is generally overrated by his fans...which are just about everyone that likes the Naruto manga.
That said, he probably wouldn't beat Orochimaru.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Quiet you Hinata fanboy.Lesse...according to stats, Akatsuki would be ranked like this...
Itachi
Orochimaru
Sasori
Kisame/Kakuzu
Deidara
HidanPain, Konan, Zetsu and Tobi lack stats.
And I really don't think Kakuzu is better than Deidara...
I'd say the stats are pretty close, but don't always tell the whole picture. Some specials don't show up on stats very well, and sometime someone's a barely-5 and sometimes they're an over-the-top 5.
For Kakuzu and Deidara, Kakuzu has less offense, but more defense than Deidara. Plus the chance to element-trump almost anyone, and his weird string-melee thing. So I can see them being roughly similar on level.
Originally posted by Q99
Summoning Manda is a normal jutsu for him.Plus he can turn into the 8-headed snake.
An aquatic form like a snake does make lake-bubble less of a handicap.
Not saying Kisame wins but does the 8 head snake do anything other than be bigger than Manda? It's size would be a great asset but it really didn't do anything despite being Orochimaru's strongest jutsu.
Oh well looks like Kisame isn't so lucky this time.
Kisame doesn't have anything that would put Oro down and Oro has enough long range abilities to make kisame's chakra leeching irrelevant. Oro could just spam those poisonous snakes like he did against 4 tailed Naruto... and i don't think Kisame is capable to doing what 4 tailed naruto did to counter it.