Absorbing Man and Wrecking Crew vs Superman

Absorbing Man, despite the name, doesn't really absorb or drain powers. He kinda mimics the properties of what he touches. For example, when he touched mjolnier, he didnt absorb its powers but duplicated its properties both physical and magical which is why he can contend with Thor most of the time.

Not sure if touching Superman would grant him Superman's powers, most probably yes which is why IMO, Superman would be hard pressed to win against AM and the Wrecking Crew. The Crew are all packing magical weapons and are all significantly strong enough to do some damage albeit, not strong enough to take him out. But they'd put some good hurting on Superman and AM would be able to finish the job.

Originally posted by KingD19
I never said he would weaken Supes; not directly anyway. I said he could absorb the sunlight from him, which he can do and that would render Clark human or at least make him far weaker than usual. He can also absorb his energy attacks like heat vision and ice breath. Become them and use them against Clark, because he's shown to fall victim to his own abilities. And absorbing Hulk's Gamma Radiation basically had Creel standing on his chest and absorbing as much as Hulk could pump out.

And any time Superman touches him, even through clothing, he can absorb the essence of his strength and durability, becoming as strong as him. If he hits him with ice, he becomes a bald version of Iceman, etc...

Keep in mind I said Creel at 100%. If this is jobbing Creel, he doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I thought he just absorbs the properties of the substance he touches like he absorbed thor's strength but thor wasn't weakened.

I believe thats how his power does work. If AM can get a hold of Superman, he'd most likely absorb Superman's powers and mimic his powers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I thought he just absorbs the properties of the substance he touches like he absorbed thor's strength but thor wasn't weakened. Can you give me the issue number where he fought hulk? No, he can't absorb his strength and durability through his clothes. That's not how his powers work. Becoming solar powered energy being would be fatal for creel though, kal would just absorb him like Rampage's solar charge or evil star's solar attacks or amazo's HV etc. When did kal fell to freeze breath, he would just create a tarnado around creel and send him to space. How does absorbing the properties of ice gives him the powers of Iceman? Did he gained Emma frost's powers when he became diamond against daredevil?
CIS is still applicable, being at best doesn't makes majority of your showings jobbing.

Originally posted by TheSentry

He also overpowers Absorbing Man.

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Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
I believe thats how his power does work. If AM can get a hold of Superman, he'd most likely absorb Superman's powers and mimic his powers.

Superman wins this 10/10.

The Wrecking Crew is a non-issue, he beats them pretty much instantly. Creel might require some thought, but there are multiple options available to Superman to contain, bfr or even KO him.

Originally posted by Nietzschean

Absorbing Man can choose to get all the physical attributes/powers of a target he's touched or just the material/substance of it. In those scans above, he absorbed the Sentry's ability to fly and his strength and speed and durability. He could do the same to Superman. Or if he gets hit with heat vision, he could become living energy.

Given CIS and personalities being in tact, it's possible Superman can win this, but 10/10 with ease? Not going to happen.

Originally posted by abhilegend
IF superman let creel to touch his skin which is rather unlikely given his past experiences with power leechers like parasite and power mimickry like paragon, he wouldn't become as powerful as superman instantly. It would take him some time ranging from several seconds to minutes to absorb enough sun-light to become sufficient powerful in which he can be easily koed. That's the con of creel's powers, he absorb powers+weaknesses of whatever he touches.

Creel's powers work differently. He doesn't have to hold on for a prolonged period of time to absorb or mimic superman's powers.

And this is the reason why Creel can go up against Thor. Simply touching mjolnier would allow Creel to take the properties of it. Its durability and its mystical properties included.

A simple touch of Superman's skin would instantly grant Creel all of Superman's powers unwatered down and of the same magnitude. And since Creel knows shit about holding back, Superman would be hard pressed to win unless he decides to let loose. Even then he'd be on the loosing end since when he does decide to stop holding back, he'd have already taken a beating.

Though it is of note to mention that AM loses to Thor more often due to his stupidity. Given this, Superman could still maybe take the slight majority, maybe 6/10 but he'd have to work for all of those wins.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Creel's powers work differently. He doesn't have to hold on for a prolonged period of time to absorb or mimic superman's powers.

And this is the reason why Creel can go up against Thor. Simply touching mjolnier would allow Creel to take the properties of it. Its durability and its mystical properties included.

A simple touch of Superman's skin would instantly grant Creel all of Superman's powers unwatered down and of the same magnitude. And since Creel knows shit about holding back, Superman would be hard pressed to win unless he decides to let loose. Even then he'd be on the loosing end since when he does decide to stop holding back, he'd have already taken a beating.

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Both Spider-Man and Spider-Woman (Arachne) have KO'd Creel. Peter simply kept punching him while avoiding his hits until he dropped (Supes can do this too, just by wearing a pair of gloves like Spidey) -- Julia took his ball-and-chain, and hit him in the head with it (this is again within Superman's abilities as well). Absorbing Man's powers also seem to have a slight delay, like when Wolverine cut off his arm faster than he could turn into adamantium. Thus a single superspeed punch in the head could maybe take AM out even if Superman doesn't want to wear gloves (or, say, wrap his cape around his fist). Superbreath could safely send Creel into space, or outright destroy him if Supes makes it focused and intense enough. If AM tries to absorb it he would turn into air and disperse.. it always takes lots of time and possibly outside help for him to rebuild himself after turning into a fluid.

Current superman? Dude is aggressive which is a plus but tactical or smart fighting is not imo his strong point. pre FP Superman wins, he is imo wiser than this current one.

Not saying team can't run a train on him just I see superman winning most of the time.

Originally posted by Magnon
Both Spider-Man and Spider-Woman (Arachne) have KO'd Creel. Peter simply kept punching him while avoiding his hits until he dropped (Supes can do this too, just by wearing a pair of gloves like Spidey) -- Julia took his ball-and-chain, and hit him in the head with it (this is again within Superman's abilities as well). Absorbing Man's powers also seem to have a slight delay, like when Wolverine cut off his arm faster than he could turn into adamantium. Thus a single superspeed punch in the head could maybe take AM out even if Superman doesn't want to wear gloves (or, say, wrap his cape around his fist). Superbreath could safely send Creel into space, or outright destroy him if Supes makes it focused and intense enough. If AM tries to absorb it he would turn into air and disperse.. it always takes lots of time and possibly outside help for him to rebuild himself after turning into a fluid.

None of what you mentioned is in character for Superman or likely at all. By that same token, I could mention dozens upon dozens of options for Creel to due based on what he could do with his powers.

Unless Superman has been briefed on Absorbing Man to the extent of the likes of Thor or something, he's not going to devise a winning strategy first time around, which is what forum fights are all about. His common knowledge on Creel extending to "Oh, well his name wraps up his gimmick pretty nicely" isn't an auto-win, either.

On the average, if Superman does win this, it will be a pretty tough battle.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Creel's powers work differently. He doesn't have to hold on for a prolonged period of time to absorb or mimic superman's powers.

And this is the reason why Creel can go up against Thor. Simply touching mjolnier would allow Creel to take the properties of it. Its durability and its mystical properties included.

A simple touch of Superman's skin would instantly grant Creel all of Superman's powers unwatered down and of the same magnitude. And since Creel knows shit about holding back, Superman would be hard pressed to win unless he decides to let loose. Even then he'd be on the loosing end since when he does decide to stop holding back, he'd have already taken a beating.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
None of what you mentioned is in character for Superman or likely at all. By that same token, I could mention dozens upon dozens of options for Creel to due based on what he could do with his powers.

Unless Superman has been briefed on Absorbing Man to the extent of the likes of Thor or something, he's not going to devise a winning strategy first time around, which is what forum fights are all about. His common knowledge on Creel extending to "Oh, well his name wraps up his gimmick pretty nicely" isn't an auto-win, either.

On the average, if Superman does win this, it will be a pretty tough battle.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mjolnir and kryptonian powers have no similarities. It takes time to gain enough sunlight to become powerful enough for a kryptonian. As creel is taking the properties of only kryptonian dna, not some internal source of energy like sentry, I don't think he would become as powerful as superman. Kal regularly tangles being with equal or greater powers than him.

Actually, thats the point of AM's powers. He takes the exact properties of what he touched. If he touches Superman, he doesn't take on the dna properties of a kryptonian, takes the current properties of Superman. Meaning, its like he's a kryptonian who's been bathing under a yellow sun as long as Superman.

Creel is a cold blooded SOB who fights dirty. Given that they'd have the same strength, speed and durability with the exception of Creel wont be holding back one bit, Superman would be in a lot of trouble.

Not saying that Superman would lose all the time, I'd give him the slight majority actually, but every win would be hard earned.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Actually, thats the point of AM's powers. He takes the exact properties of what he touched. If he touches Superman, he doesn't take on the dna properties of a kryptonian, takes the current properties of Superman. Meaning, its like he's a kryptonian who's been bathing under a yellow sun as long as Superman.

Creel is a cold blooded SOB who fights dirty. Given that they'd have the same strength, speed and durability with the exception of Creel wont be holding back one bit, Superman would be in a lot of trouble.

Not saying that Superman would lose all the time, I'd give him the slight majority actually, but every win would be hard earned.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Has he done something like that i.e. taking the full power of an external energy absorber upon touch? Meh, kal fights such people almost on weekly basis like eradicator, russian zod, bizzaro, ultraman, cyborg superman, daxamites etc. Even IF creel absorbs kal's power, he wouldn't have his experience. It would be like when manchestar black made bizzaro smart, superman still owned him telling him that he doesn't have his experience with his powers. Same as when creel absorbed thor's strength, he was still owned by odinson. Frankly kal wouldn't let creel touch him to begin with and if spidey can ko creel with a glove, kal can just wrap his hand with his cape and ko him. Believe me he beat kilowog using the same tactic when rings had the yellow weakness.

Mjolnier comes to mind.

Dont forget that Creel is no slouch when it comes to slugging it out.

Meh, is Superman's costume still made of that uberly durable kryptonian cloth? If so Creel could touch that and he'd be durable enough long enough to take a grab at Superman 😛

Then there's also the WC that Superman has to contend with.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Creel's powers work differently. He doesn't have to hold on for a prolonged period of time to absorb or mimic superman's powers.

And this is the reason why Creel can go up against Thor. Simply touching mjolnier would allow Creel to take the properties of it. Its durability and its mystical properties included.

A simple touch of Superman's skin would instantly grant Creel all of Superman's powers unwatered down and of the same magnitude. And since Creel knows shit about holding back, Superman would be hard pressed to win unless he decides to let loose. Even then he'd be on the loosing end since when he does decide to stop holding back, he'd have already taken a beating.

Eh, Superman's far more skilled and practiced in use of those powers.

Creel doesn't know about holding back, but nor does he know how to push them to their limits.