Absorbing Man and Wrecking Crew vs Superman

Started by abhilegend5 pages

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Mjolnier comes to mind.

Dont forget that Creel is no slouch when it comes to slugging it out.

Meh, is Superman's costume still made of that uberly durable kryptonian cloth? If so Creel could touch that and he'd be durable enough long enough to take a grab at Superman 😛

Then there's also the WC that Superman has to contend with.


I thought that he only took the properties of uru not the powers of mjolnir. Not comparable though as mjolnir is a source of its own power while superman needs to recharge with sunlight. Not that I recall as his cape got shredded a lot even after IC. That's where having speed just a notch below flash comes in handy and he almost always blitzes facing a group of villains so no CIS there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mjolnir and kryptonian powers have no similarities. It takes time to gain enough sunlight to become powerful enough for a kryptonian. As creel is taking the properties of only kryptonian dna, not some internal source of energy like sentry, I don't think he would become as powerful as superman. Kal regularly tangles being with equal or greater powers than him.

WTF. If Creek can absorb Mjolnir properties, he should have NO PROBLEMS absorbing Supermans powers....his EXACT powers. Where do you get this sh** from?

Scans already showed just from Sentry having his booted(covered) foot on Creels neck, he absorbed all the power he wanted from him. He can do the same to Clark.

And this was Sentry, one of the most powerful guys in Marvel; Creel was going toe to toe with him, and explicitly stated that every time they touched he was getting more powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF. If Creek can absorb Mjolnir properties, he should have NO PROBLEMS absorbing Supermans powers....his EXACT powers. Where do you get this sh** from?

Read first before posting upon something, ok. Creel just absorbed the properties of uru, not powers of mjolnir itself. You know like weather manipulation or energy absorption.

Originally posted by KingD19
Scans already showed just from Sentry having his booted(covered) foot on Creels neck, he absorbed all the power he wanted from him. He can do the same to Clark.

And this was Sentry, one of the most powerful guys in Marvel; Creel was going toe to toe with him, and explicitly stated that every time they touched he was getting more powerful.


I couldn't see them as I am on my phone. That would be more like artistic or writer's error as his powers doesn't work that way. That's like rogue absorbing powers through clothes, it isn't a common occurence and can be cited as PIS. Who do you think creel is fighting here?

You keep saying his powers don't work like that, when they do. You're just assuming he's like Rogue.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I couldn't see them as I am on my phone. That would be more like artistic or writer's error as his powers doesn't work that way. That's like rogue absorbing powers through clothes, it isn't a common occurence and can be cited as PIS.

unless she is wearing unstable molecules.. 😕

Lol...this Guy. Creel powers works exactly like that. He can have Superman exact copy if he chose to with just a simple touch. This isn't hard to comprehend.

Originally posted by KingD19
You keep saying his powers don't work like that, when they do. You're just assuming he's like Rogue.

So amuse me, how does his powers work? Both creel and rogue are touch based character, while rogue's powers were always active(no longer applicable), creel's doesn't. That doesn't change the fact that creel absorbing sentry's powers through his boot isn't a clear indicative of how his powers work normally.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...this Guy. Creel powers works exactly like that. He can have Superman exact copy if he chose to with just a simple touch. This isn't hard to comprehend.

Lulz.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
unless she is wearing unstable molecules.. 😕

That's not what I meant. I said its like rogue touching someone's clothes and stealing their life-force.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So amuse me, how does his powers work? Both creel and rogue are touch based character, while rogue's powers were always active(no longer applicable), creel's doesn't. That doesn't change the fact that creel absorbing sentry's powers through his boot isn't a clear indicative of how his powers work normally.

Rogue absorbs everything about a person...their memories, even the training they have had using their power. She also kills them if she holds on too long. She is limited to skin contact though. She can ONLY absorb powers...she can't absorb properties like adamantium, bricks, cocaine (absorbing man turned to cocaine before by mistake).

Absorbingman...he can all properties. The guy has absorbed trash and was a living trash can. He can absorb adamantium...basically any type of material...including magic. When he absorbed properties from Mjolnir, he even became a living tornado. He can touch someone and absorb their powers as well while not weakening that person like Rogue or parasite does. Absorbingman can absorb "anything", no limits at all. He can also absorb through fabric, it doesn't have to be skin to skin contact.

That's the difference.

Originally posted by carver9
Rogue absorbs everything about a person...their memories, even the training they have had using their power. She also kills them if she holds on too long. She is limited to skin contact though. She can ONLY absorb powers...she can't absorb properties like adamantium, bricks, cocaine (absorbing man turned to cocaine before by mistake).

Absorbingman...he can all properties. The guy has absorbed trash and was a living trash can. He can absorb adamantium...basically any type of material...including magic. When he absorbed properties from Mjolnir, he even became a living tornado. He can touch someone and absorb their powers as well while not weakening that person like Rogue or parasite does. Absorbingman can absorb "anything", no limits at all. He can also absorb through fabric, it doesn't have to be skin to skin contact.

That's the difference.


Thanks for the lecture Prof. Carver. You think that I don't know about them. How does posting some random feats adds to him able to absorb powers through clothes?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what I meant. I said its like rogue touching someone's clothes and stealing their life-force.

Absorbing man actually can absorb a person's power through their clothes and armor. I always assumed he simply had to consciously try and bypass their clothes.

He has done it to Stellaris and she was wearing her purple armor and he glowed and made an energy connection with Stellaris bypassing her armor..

he gave her a bear hug..

^Really, give me the issue number and I would check it out. Assuming its true and he has to conscioussly activate his powers to mimic powers, that still does not answer that how would creel copy superman's powers when kal blitzes him which he almost always does facing a group of villains. Given creel's track record against speed, it doesn't looks good.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/36152-5055-40370-1-thunderstrike_super.jpg

Absorbing Man also stole Hank Pym's powers when Hank touched him to shrink him down and Hank was wearing gloves.

http://s1d6.turboimagehost.com/sp/77dc4546bba0e2b8b96f9c72f22c3330/Avengers_Academy-07-019.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it isn't like he deals with these kind of threats on almost daily basis, right?

Maybe, but the combo is just too much for supes. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman wins. Imo, Creel is the biggest threat--but he's also not the only energy-absorbing type Supes has faced/owned.
Creel doesn't absorb energy. He just absorbs the properties of whatever he touches. He touched Thor, and became just as strong and powerful as Thor. He touched Mjolnir and became just as tough as it. He gets blasted by fire, he becomes that fire. This is all instantaneous. I can't actually remember Absorbing Man ever draining energy actually.

Team wins. This team'd give Thor plenty of fits. And Thor doesn't even have a magic weakness.

^some people have been saying that creel DOES absorb energy though, (ala parasite). which is something i've never seen either and keep waiting for scans to see.

i don't see the crew's weapons being much of an issue for kal though. at all, really. though they have some good showings, i'll use their more general portrayal and say kal wrecks the crew pretty easily imo. creel IS an issue though. an intelligent creel COULD beat kal, or pretty well anyone. a creel with cis on is something else altogether. comicbook creel gets schooled by daredevil. i like supes' chances.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So amuse me, how does his powers work? Both creel and rogue are touch based character, while rogue's powers were always active(no longer applicable), creel's doesn't. That doesn't change the fact that creel absorbing sentry's powers through his boot isn't a clear indicative of how his powers work normally.
How about you just stop comparing Creel to Rogue, both are entirely different in nature.

He also touched the street once and said he absobed the heart of NY steel and concrete (and had the properties of both) he doesn't need 100% direct connection, really he doesn't not at all.