Don't bury me ****er. estahuh
Originally posted by NemeBro
I wasn't trolling you.I was expressing disbelief at you thinking that a fight between Andrew or Galen Marek could be anything but "Galen Marek compresses his body into a marble", or some variation of horrible stomp.
Also:
Notice the Force speed Qui-Gon and a younger Obi display at about ten seconds in.
Yeah, Anakin could literally bumrush Andrew with his saber alone and win.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I wasn't trolling you.I was expressing disbelief at you thinking that a fight between Andrew or Galen Marek could be anything but "Galen Marek compresses his body into a marble", or some variation of horrible stomp.
Also:
Notice the Force speed Qui-Gon and a younger Obi display at about ten seconds in.
Yeah, Anakin could literally bumrush Andrew with his saber alone and win.
It's okay: you can troll me. I can take it. I won't report it. 😐
I guess you forgot about the part where Andrew could do the same exact thing to Galen but with much more precision?
You have not seen Chronicle if you think your video/point does anything to change the fact that Anakin dies horribly in this match-up.
Edit - For you Anakin fanboys, you may want to grab some tissues because the tears will flow after watching this video:
Yes, that's right, Andrew can shoot Anakin with a TK gun. 😬
Please observe Andrew flying through solid buildings at around
28 seconds to 32 seconds:
Yes, Andrew's durability is quite strong.
Observe that Andrew can combat people, much more powerful in TK than Anakin, by just stopping their TK. Not sure if that would translate to the force....that would be up to the OP. I vote that those forces be separate.
Originally posted by Nephthys
In the novelisation Galen creates an artificial hurricane at one point. 😐I am not shitting you. He would destroy Andrew.
I am very glad I did not read the novel. The games are all I want to go by for an AVF thread (if we could make one).
When the **** did force users become Storm? I am okay with Luke resisting "black hole" forces. He's Luke...what Anakin could have been had he realized his potential.
Galen creating a hurricane? There's just so much mass involved with the air and moisture that it is stupid even compared to force pulling a star destroyer out of the sky.
But, no, I still think Andrew would make short work of Galen. Even if you consider Galen can force TK hurricanes into existence. I already explained why, too.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It's okay: you can troll me. I can take it. I won't report it. 😐I guess you forgot about the part where Andrew could do the same exact thing to Galen but with much more precision?
You have not seen Chronicle if you think your video/point does anything to change the fact that Anakin dies horribly in this match-up.
Edit - For you Anakin fanboys, you may want to grab some tissues because the tears will flow after watching this video:
Yes, that's right, Andrew can shoot Anakin with a TK gun. 😬
Please observe Andrew flying through solid buildings at around
28 seconds to 32 seconds:
Yes, Andrew's durability is quite strong.
Observe that Andrew can combat people, much more powerful in TK than Anakin, by just stopping their TK. Not sure if that would translate to the force....that would be up to the OP. I vote that those forces be separate.
At no point has anyone argued that Andrew doesn't have massive raw potential.
He's still slower; ergo he loses to Anakin's first attack.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I am very glad I did not read the novel. The games are all I want to go by for an AVF thread (if we could make one).When the **** did force users become Storm? I am okay with Luke resisting "black hole" forces. He's Luke...what Anakin could have been had he realized his potential.
Galen creating a hurricane? There's just so much mass involved with the air and moisture that it is stupid even compared to force pulling a star destroyer out of the sky.
But, no, I still think Andrew would make short work of Galen. Even if you consider Galen can force TK hurricanes into existence. I already explained why, too.
Lol, he basically just Force Pushed everything away in a way that makes all other Force Pushes look like flabby, flaccid willies.
Of course you could argue its just hyperbole, but he still did it against hundreds of battle droids and created a 'dark cloud over the landscape', so add that to the amount of mass. He also destroys a superstructure that extends into space by creating telekinetic earthquakes in the supports. That book is insane.
Originally posted by RobtardAnakin's first attack would be rushing toward Andrew with his saber. please show an example of Anny using force powers at the start of a fight. Your point would only be valid if the OP said this was strictly a tk/force battle... even then, you'd still have to stop ignoring that Andrew has defense.
At no point has anyone argued that Andrew doesn't have massive raw potential.He's still slower; ergo he loses to Anakin's first attack.
Originally posted by marwash22
Anakin's first attack would be rushing toward Andrew with his saber. please show an example of Anny using force powers at the start of a fight. Your point would only be valid if the OP said this was strictly a tk/force battle... even then, you'd still have to stop ignoring that Andrew has defense.
CIS/PIS is off; it would be stupid for Anakin to try that, unless they're close at the start, then Anakin could draw/ignite/dash/slash Andrew before he gets off an attack.
No, not ignoring that Andrew showed defenses, mainly from physical attacks. What you're ignoring is that he'll be dead or dying before he can raise them.
ergo, Anakin wins via first attack either way, long starting battle with THE FORCE. Close starting battle with sabre. win/win
Originally posted by Robtard
CIS/PIS is off; it would be stupid for Anakin to try that, unless they're close at the start, then Anakin could draw/ignite/dash/slash Andrew before he gets off an attack.No, not ignoring that Andrew showed defenses, mainly from physical attacks. What you're ignoring is that he'll be dead or dying before he can raise them.
ergo, Anakin wins via first attack either way, long starting battle with THE FORCE. Close starting battle with sabre. win/win
Originally posted by marwash22ahah
So, even if by some miracle Anakin gets the first attack, Andrew has an actual defense... which, according to your CIS bullshit, is automatically activated because it would be STUPID for it not to be.
Originally posted by marwash22
So, even if by some miracle Anakin gets the first attack, Andrew has an actual defense... which, according to your CIS bullshit, is automatically activated because it would be STUPID for it not to be.ahah
"Already activated" is you giving Andrew prep before the battle, which is the only way he might win here. With prep.
Anakin wins the thread fight; he might lose the one-sided prep nonsense being tried now.
Also, when did Andrew stop The Force with his powers? Pretty sure that "shield" was good at physical attacks to some extent.
Originally posted by marwash22
brah, c'mon. His shield is activated by thought.OOOOOOOOOOH SHIT, ANAKIN IS FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF THOUGHT!!!!!! ZOMG!
Brah, c'mon, Anakin's Force attacks are activated by thought.
You're just going to assume Andrew is faster at thinking than Anakin, a guy who can block multiple blaster-bolts at close range?
Also:
Originally posted by Robtard
when did Andrew stop The Force with his powers? Pretty sure that "shield" was good at physical attacks to some extent.
That's not what I'm claiming. I'm saying that Anakin has to think about force choking Andrew, then actually raise his hand to do so. Meanwhile, Andrew has to think about a shield being around his body... which do you think is faster? So, even if Anakin manages to choke Andrew first, Andrew's shield is will be active... unless you're claiming that Anakin can MOVE HIS ARM faster than the speed of thought.
As for the second part, are you asking me when Andrew stopped tk, with his own tk? If so, i don't recall that ever happening in the movie... HOWEVER, In order for Anakin to choke Andrew, his force power has to go around his neck like an invisible set of hands. If Andrew has his shield up, it's the exact same thing as being protected from someone trying to physically crush his throat.
So yeah, Anakin tries to choke Andrew, it doesn't work, Andrew chokes Anakin, it does work.
Originally posted by marwash22
That's not what I'm claiming. I'm saying that Anakin has to think about force choking Andrew, then actually raise his hand to do so. Meanwhile, Andrew has to think about a shield being around his body... which do you think is faster? So, even if Anakin manages to choke Andrew first, Andrew's shield is will be active... unless you're claiming that Anakin can MOVE HIS ARM faster than the speed of thought.As for the second part, are you asking me when Andrew stopped tk, with his own tk? If so, i don't recall that ever happening in the movie... HOWEVER, In order for Anakin to choke Andrew, his force power has to go around his neck like an invisible set of hands. If Andrew has his shield up, it's the exact same thing as being protected from someone trying to physically crush his throat.
No he does not, the Force isn't dependent of hands and such, you're limiting the guy. Not choke, crush his throat or snap his neck, the Force can be used to manipulate tons of weight, a throat will be an afterthought.
So Andrew ever stopped an non-physical attack and some physical attacks still got through his "shield". The Force isn't physical, ergo, there's no basis to say Andrew's shield would stop it, no more than saying Anakin could stop Andrew's powers, as they're not the Force.
Andrew dies before he knows what is happening.
...the phuck? 😐
When has anyone ever used the force without using their hands? Even Yoda, who is supposedly league above Anakain, used his hands to stop objects. But even if that is technically true, only things seen on screen count, so you need to reference the instance. Also, you need to show Anakin crushing something instantaneously to prove that he can kill Andrew before he thinks about raising his shield.
The way you're pumping up Anakin, we need to get him in a thread against Tetsuo or Phoenix from x-men.
Originally posted by Robtard
He's still slower; ergo he loses to Anakin's first attack.
In order for your point to be correct, they'd have to start very close together with Anakin having his saber at the ready to strike when the fight starts.
Is that how the thread conditions have this matched up? If so, I will concede. I don't remember reading that but I do forget.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, he basically just Force Pushed everything away in a way that makes all other Force Pushes look like flabby, flaccid willies.Of course you could argue its just hyperbole, but he still did it against hundreds of battle droids and created a 'dark cloud over the landscape', so add that to the amount of mass. He also destroys a superstructure that extends into space by creating telekinetic earthquakes in the supports. That book is insane.
I'd never deny a feat if it happened in "canon EU" materials. I would just be quick to reject it in vs. threads.
Making hurricanes with a force push is a bit over the top. Destroying space-needles (literal space towers) seems like it would be worse because he did it by moving a tectonic plate (apparently).
Originally posted by marwash22
Anakin's first attack would be rushing toward Andrew with his saber. please show an example of Anny using force powers at the start of a fight. Your point would only be valid if the OP said this was strictly a tk/force battle... even then, you'd still have to stop ignoring that Andrew has defense.
I'm okay with turning off PIS/CIS. Anakin will use a best attack when the fight starts. That would probably be a saber throw or a force jump-strike.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd never deny a feat if it happened in "canon EU" materials. I would just be quick to reject it in vs. threads.Making hurricanes with a force push is a bit over the top. Destroying space-needles (literal space towers) seems like it would be worse because he did it by moving a tectonic plate (apparently).
Whoops, I didn't mean an actual earthquake. Sorry, I worded that badly. He felt the miniscule cracks in the base of the 'sky hook' (yeah, basically space-needle) and then created a quake inside the supports i.e. the base of the structure, 'shaking' it apart.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Whoops, I didn't mean an actual earthquake. Sorry, I worded that badly. He felt the miniscule cracks in the base of the 'sky hook' (yeah, basically space-needle) and then created a quake inside the supports i.e. the base of the structure, 'shaking' it apart.
That's some "Shatterpoint" sh*t right there. hmm