Personification

Originally posted by Bat Dude
To atone for our sins.

It says in the Bible:

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22)

Without the shedding of blood, there can be no remission of sins. That's why the Hebrews used to sacrifice animals to God. That's also why many sins in the Bible resulted in the death penalty (such as witchcraft, adultery, sodomy, etc.)

Jesus died on the cross and His blood was shed to atone for our sins. That was His mission here on earth: to atone for our sins... ALL of them. FOREVER. All it takes is faith.

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Originally posted by Bat Dude
To atone for our sins.

It says in the Bible:

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22)

Without the shedding of blood, there can be no remission of sins. That's why the Hebrews used to sacrifice animals to God. That's also why many sins in the Bible resulted in the death penalty (such as witchcraft, adultery, sodomy, etc.)

Jesus died on the cross and His blood was shed to atone for our sins. That was His mission here on earth: to atone for our sins... ALL of them. FOREVER. All it takes is faith.

Again, this is not about your religion. This is about the personification of a god, rather it be a Christian god or an Greek god.

Why would this god need to jump through such hoops.?

Did god create a Jesus for every animal?

Originally posted by Stoic
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I get the feeling you are trying to derail this thread. I will not let you. So, keep your thumbs to yourself and lets talk about the personification of gods.

If you are not comfortable about talking about the Christian god then lets talk about so other god.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I get the feeling you are trying to derail this thread. I will not let you. So, keep your thumbs to yourself and lets talk about the personification of gods.

If you are not comfortable about talking about the Christian god then lets talk about so other god.

As far as I am concerned, there is only one true God, only one almighty, only one all powerful, and according to my beliefs that God is named Jesus. The Personification of God. There can be but One 🙂. If you or someone else feels or thinks that there is another God, who am i to judge? That is what you, or they believe. Bat-Dude nailed it on the head. I would have said Amen brother, but I do not know who Bat-Dude is. Which is why he got the big thumbs up from me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Again, this is not about your religion. This is about the personification of a god, rather it be a Christian god or an Greek god.

Why would this god need to jump through such hoops.?

Did god create a Jesus for every animal?

First, God didn't "create" Jesus. In the Bible, it states that Jesus was with God and WAS God.

Human beings are the only ones that need a Saviour because we are the only ones conscious of what we do. A dog can't sin, but a man can.

And I'll leave it at that.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
First, God didn't "create" Jesus. In the Bible, it states that Jesus was with God and WAS God.

Human beings are the only ones that need a Saviour because we are the only ones conscious of what we do. A dog can't sin, but a man can.

And I'll leave it at that.

Again you nailed it.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
First, God didn't "create" Jesus. In the Bible, it states that Jesus was with God and WAS God.

Human beings are the only ones that need a Saviour because we are the only ones conscious of what we do. A dog can't sin, but a man can.

And I'll leave it at that.

😆 That is too silly. Humans are animals.

However, you are on to something. I think that personification happens because we are egotistical. We think humans are what the universe was created for. Therefore, it only makes sense that our gods would also be human.

Originally posted by Stoic
As far as I am concerned, there is only one true God, only one almighty, only one all powerful, and according to my beliefs that God is named Jesus. The Personification of God. There can be but One 🙂. If you or someone else feels or thinks that there is another God, who am i to judge? That is what you, or they believe. Bat-Dude nailed it on the head. I would have said Amen brother, but I do not know who Bat-Dude is. Which is why he got the big thumbs up from me.

That is not the topic. Perhaps you should post somewhere else. You could start your own thread, and I would be happy to talk to you about your topic in your thread. However, I'm sure you would not like me derailing your thread.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 That is too silly. Humans are animals.

However, you are on to something. I think that personification happens because we are egotistical. We think humans are what the universe was created for. Therefore, it only makes sense that our gods would also be human.

Hehehahaha. And yet animals are incapable of sin, it is not animals that purposely ruin the environment, or kill for money. It is not animals that go through life striving for perfection, because as far as they are concerned, everything is perfect. Animals don't quite reflect on things the way humans do. Looks like I was not the one to derail this thread, as I was on point concerning personification. You on the other hand threw up a very large strawman. Sin is something that only man is capable of doing which was what Bat-Dude was saying within the context of his post.

Oh yeah I have nothing more to say on the matter.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hehehahaha. And yet animals are incapable of sin, it is not animals that purposely ruin the environment, or kill for money. It is not animals that go through life striving for perfection, because as far as they are concerned, everything is perfect. Animals don't quite reflect on things the way humans do. Looks like I was not the one to derail this thread, as I was on point concerning personification. You on the other hand threw up a very large strawman. Sin is something that only man is capable of doing which was what Bat-Dude was saying within the context of his post.

There is no such thing as sin. All animals, including humans, manifest the ten worlds.

Now back on topic.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sin is something that only man is capable of doing which was what Bat-Dude was saying within the context of his post.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no such thing as sin. All animals, including humans, manifest the ten worlds.

Somehow I think I know exactly how each of you sees the other.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Somehow I think I know exactly how each of you sees the other.

Actually I have no hard feelings. Our beliefs differ that's all. It's really no big thing to me. I was simply giving my view of what I thought was the personification of God. We all have our own opinions, which is what helps the world go round.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Somehow I think I know exactly how each of you sees the other.

😂

I don't think so. 😛

Originally posted by Bat Dude
To atone for our sins.

It says in the Bible:

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22)

Without the shedding of blood, there can be no remission of sins. That's why the Hebrews used to sacrifice animals to God. That's also why many sins in the Bible resulted in the death penalty (such as witchcraft, adultery, sodomy, etc.)

Jesus died on the cross and His blood was shed to atone for our sins. That was His mission here on earth: to atone for our sins... ALL of them. FOREVER. All it takes is faith.

If that's the case, then I have a question, as I'm not well versed in Christian specifics -

Adultery - Why is blood necessary to atone for that sin? Why is killing of the two people who committed adultery considered purification from them making love?

If one dies and is cast into Hell fire for committing a sin of adultery or witchcraft, how can this be beneficial to the development and growth of that person's soul?

How long does one need to suffer in Hell for adultery before it becomes totally redundant and useless torture?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If that's the case, then I have a question, as I'm not well versed in Christian specifics -

Adultery - Why is blood necessary to atone for that sin? Why is killing of the two people who committed adultery considered purification from them making love?

If one dies and is cast into Hell fire for committing a sin of adultery or witchcraft, how can this be beneficial to the development and growth of that person's soul?

How long does one need to suffer in Hell for adultery before it becomes totally redundant and useless torture?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If that's the case, then I have a question, as I'm not well versed in Christian specifics -

Adultery - Why is blood necessary to atone for that sin? Why is killing of the two people who committed adultery considered purification from them making love?

If one dies and is cast into Hell fire for committing a sin of adultery or witchcraft, how can this be beneficial to the development and growth of that person's soul?

How long does one need to suffer in Hell for adultery before it becomes totally redundant and useless torture?

Adultery: This is a sin, because it brings into question man's power over woman and lineage. The rest is just fear tactics to keep people in line. 😉

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If that's the case, then I have a question, as I'm not well versed in Christian specifics -

Adultery - Why is blood necessary to atone for that sin? Why is killing of the two people who committed adultery considered purification from them making love?

If one dies and is cast into Hell fire for committing a sin of adultery or witchcraft, how can this be beneficial to the development and growth of that person's soul?

How long does one need to suffer in Hell for adultery before it becomes totally redundant and useless torture?

I'll answer your questions. I don't want you to be confused about what I'm trying to say. That usually makes both parties angry.

Blood is necessary to atone for adultery because it is a sin. When a woman cheats on her husband, or a husband cheats on his wife, they are breaking their spouse's trust and love. You're being extremely selfish and prideful. That is not the way God intended for it to be.

How often is adultery "making love"? From what I've seen in my relatively short life is that adultery is always committed out of lust. Even in the most extreme circumstances.

We all sin. I sin, you sin, our bosses sin, the minister down the street sins, etc. That's why we need a Saviour.

However, when someone does continual sin over and over and never repents and asks God's forgiveness through Jesus Christ, they are dead men walking. That's because they are one breath away from hell. An unrepentant sinner refuses to acknowledge God (or, in the sense of a Luciferian, acknowledges His existence, but hates Him)

Witchcraft itself is an abomination. When one partakes in witchcraft, they are allowing demons into their lives. That's where the saying "I have inner demons to battle," when dealing with things like drugs comes from.

And the more demons you allow into your life, the harder and harder it is to come to repentance. It's like the Mafia. The longer you stay in, the harder it is to get out. Meditation and mind altering drugs aren't what most would call "traditional" witchcraft practices, but they are witchcraft just the same. When you're in an altered state of consciousness, you're open to demonic infestation and sometimes even possession. I call it the Adopt-a-Demon program.

Sorry if that was a little unclear. I'm actually in a hurry to get to work. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me, so that I don't end up hijacking this thread.

You have to understand that Bat Dude's God is good because He's good. It's a beautiful circle.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." (Isaiah 55:8)

Originally posted by Bat Dude
..."For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." (Isaiah 55:8)

That is arrogance.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is arrogance.

No, that's explaining the difference between us and God.

We can't understand a lot of what God does or why God does it.

Do you understand how God created the planets, animals and why He chose to design them the way He did? Do you comprehend how God created all the gases like carbon, hydrogen, etc?

I certainly don't.

It's not arrogance, it's fact.

Arrogance = pride = sin

God doesn't sin.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
No, that's explaining the difference between us and God.

We can't understand a lot of what God does or why God does it.

Do you understand how God created the planets, animals and why He chose to design them the way He did? Do you comprehend how God created all the gases like carbon, hydrogen, etc?

I certainly don't.

It's not arrogance, it's fact.

Arrogance = pride = sin

God doesn't sin.

It is simple and easy to answer your question. God did not create anything. We humans created gods.