Personification

Started by Bat Dude6 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is simple and easy to answer your question. God did not create anything. We humans created gods.

That's blasphemous...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
That's blasphemous...

How?

That would be like me telling you that Santa Clause will not give you any gifts.

It is only blasphemous for you, because it is how you believe.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How?

That would be like me telling you that Santa Clause will not give you any gifts.

It is only blasphemous for you, because it is how you believe.

If you don't know how that is blasphemous, I don't know what to tell you...

I don't want to hijack your thread anymore, so please, PM me if you want to discuss this any further.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
If you don't know how that is blasphemous, I don't know what to tell you...

I don't want to hijack your thread anymore, so please, PM me if you want to discuss this any further.

I see no reason to PM you. This is not a burning issue for me. Sorry about the pun. 😄

I understand one thing very clearly: No one understands God; no book can be written that understands God. God cannot be understood by humans, ever. That means anything we can or have said about God is flawed, including what I just said. I made a thread about this a long time ago.

Originally posted by Bat Dude

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." (Isaiah 55:8)


"A circle is a circle." (Omega Vision 2:03)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
"A circle is a circle." (Omega Vision 2:03)

I actually had a Christian once tell me that logic is the work of the devil.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I actually had a Christian once tell me that logic is the work of the devil.

Some Christians demonize things they're bad at.

Like Heavy Metal music, dancing, and sex.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Some Christians demonize things they're bad at.

Like Heavy Metal music, dancing, and sex.

😂 The first two maybe, but unfortunately the last one they are very good at. 😉

The thing that never made sense to me was Heavy Metal Christian music. Like what's the point?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😂 The first two maybe, but unfortunately the last one they are very good at. 😉

The thing that never made sense to me was Heavy Metal Christian music. Like what's the point?


What do you mean? There's no contradiction between playing Heavy Metal and being Christian unless you think there's something intrinsically evil about fast tempo drumming and distorted guitar riffs.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What do you mean? There's no contradiction between playing Heavy Metal and being Christian unless you think there's something intrinsically evil about fast tempo drumming and distorted guitar riffs.

Have you ever heard Heavy Metal Christian music? Just my opinion: Heavy Metal is evil, but a dark theme works better, then praise the lord.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Have you ever heard Heavy Metal Christian music? Just my opinion: Heavy Metal is evil, but a dark theme works better, then praise the lord.

When you say heavy metal...do you mean Death Metal?

There's more than just Death, Thrash, and Glam.

This is an example of a good heavy metal song with Christian themes: YouTube video

(Based on Goethe's Faust)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
When you say heavy metal...do you mean Death Metal?

There's more than just Death, Thrash, and Glam.

This is an example of a good heavy metal song with Christian themes:

(Based on Goethe's Faust)

wtf?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I'll answer your questions. I don't want you to be confused about what I'm trying to say. That usually makes both parties angry.

Blood is necessary to atone for adultery because it is a sin. When a woman cheats on her husband, or a husband cheats on his wife, they are breaking their spouse's trust and love. You're being extremely selfish and prideful. That is not the way God intended for it to be.

How often is adultery "making love"? From what I've seen in my relatively short life is that adultery is always committed out of lust. Even in the most extreme circumstances.

We all sin. I sin, you sin, our bosses sin, the minister down the street sins, etc. That's why we need a Saviour.

However, when someone does continual sin over and over and never repents and asks God's forgiveness through Jesus Christ, they are dead men walking. That's because they are one breath away from hell. An unrepentant sinner refuses to acknowledge God (or, in the sense of a Luciferian, acknowledges His existence, but hates Him)

Witchcraft itself is an abomination. When one partakes in witchcraft, they are allowing demons into their lives. That's where the saying "I have inner demons to battle," when dealing with things like drugs comes from.

And the more demons you allow into your life, the harder and harder it is to come to repentance. It's like the Mafia. The longer you stay in, the harder it is to get out. Meditation and mind altering drugs aren't what most would call "traditional" witchcraft practices, but they are witchcraft just the same. When you're in an altered state of consciousness, you're open to demonic infestation and sometimes even possession. I call it the Adopt-a-Demon program.

Sorry if that was a little unclear. I'm actually in a hurry to get to work. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me, so that I don't end up hijacking this thread.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." (Isaiah 55:8)

Why is being selfish and prideful (how is it pride to lust or love another?) worse than murder?
Shouldn't God be the one that decides who lives and who dies?

Following from that, spilling the blood of adulterous woman or a man is in fact more prideful than adultery, for people are taking it upon themselves to pass a judgement in God's name.

In fact, doing ANYTHING that is infringing on anyone's rights, hurting anyone or worse, causing a death of another, in God's name is prideful and should be considered a sin.

Let me clarify - I like Jesus and I like what he preached. I believe he was enlightened and wise and had seen the world for what it really is and I do believe his mission was to help people break the cycle of reincarnation. His teachings all point to that as I believe he said ''I call on the wicked and not righteous''.
Is he now a part of 'God' or oneness? Yes, I believe he is.

What I have great problem with, however, is absolutism of religious doctrine.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Why is being selfish and prideful (how is it pride to lust or love another?) worse than murder?
Shouldn't God be the one that decides who lives and who dies?

Following from that, spilling the blood of adulterous woman or a man is in fact more prideful than adultery, for people are taking it upon themselves to pass a judgement in God's name.

In fact, doing ANYTHING that is infringing on anyone's rights, hurting anyone or worse, causing a death of another, in God's name is prideful and should be considered a sin.

Let me clarify - I like Jesus and I like what he preached. I believe he was enlightened and wise and had seen the world for what it really is and I do believe his mission was to help people break the cycle of reincarnation. His teachings all point to that as I believe he said ''I call on the wicked and not righteous''.
Is he now a part of 'God' or oneness? Yes, I believe he is.

What I have great problem with, however, is absolutism of religious doctrine.

I have a feeling you also have a problem with teachings of Paul. So do I.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Why is being selfish and prideful (how is it pride to lust or love another?) worse than murder?
Shouldn't God be the one that decides who lives and who dies?

Following from that, spilling the blood of adulterous woman or a man is in fact more prideful than adultery, for people are taking it upon themselves to pass a judgement in God's name.

In fact, doing ANYTHING that is infringing on anyone's rights, hurting anyone or worse, causing a death of another, in God's name is prideful and should be considered a sin.

Let me clarify - I like Jesus and I like what he preached. I believe he was enlightened and wise and had seen the world for what it really is and I do believe his mission was to help people break the cycle of reincarnation. His teachings all point to that as I believe he said ''I call on the wicked and not righteous''.
Is he now a part of 'God' or oneness? Yes, I believe he is.

What I have great problem with, however, is absolutism of religious doctrine.

Sin is sin is sin. Every sin has the same weight in God's eyes. You have to understand that God is perfect in all His ways. He is eternal and pure. Any sin in the sight of God is abhorrent. Whether that's pride, lust, greed, or murder.

God does decide who lives and dies.

God gave the law of the Old Testament to Moses. That was the old covenant. In the old covenant, God commanded that adulterers, fornicators, witches, astrologers, murderers, etc. be killed, so that their sin didn't permeate through the population, thus opening the people to demonic influences. ("A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump."😉

Obviously, we aren't under the old covenant anymore, so we're not commanded to do that anymore. Anyone who goes out and kills abortion doctors is a hypocrite. Jesus is the new, better covenant.

What I have a great problem with is the New Age idea that Jesus was some Eastern mystic. That's no offense to you, it's just what I have a big problem with.

For a conspiracy theorist, Bat Dude is quick to accept Christian dogma as indisputable fact.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Sin is sin is sin. Every sin has the same weight in God's eyes. You have to understand that God is perfect in all His ways. He is eternal and pure. Any sin in the sight of God is abhorrent. Whether that's pride, lust, greed, or murder.

God does decide who lives and dies.

God gave the law of the Old Testament to Moses. That was the old covenant. In the old covenant, God commanded that adulterers, fornicators, witches, astrologers, murderers, etc. be killed, so that their sin didn't permeate through the population, thus opening the people to demonic influences. ("A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump."😉

Obviously, we aren't under the old covenant anymore, so we're not commanded to do that anymore. Anyone who goes out and kills abortion doctors is a hypocrite. Jesus is the new, better covenant.

What I have a great problem with is the New Age idea that Jesus was some Eastern mystic. That's no offense to you, it's just what I have a big problem with.

A god that tells people to kill is more like the fictitious demons you are talking about.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
For a conspiracy theorist, Bat Dude is quick to accept Christian dogma as indisputable fact.

It's not hard to tell that Christianity is truth.

-There's a HUGE push for New Age, whether people realize it or not
-New Age doctrine and pantheism is in everything we watch, read, and hear
-New Age hates Christianity and focuses tons of effort on refuting it

If the emerging world religion (New Age) is so focused on converting Christians, that's got to tell you that real Christianity has to be truth.

If Christianity were just some religion like Buddhism or Hinduism, why would they be pushing so hard and putting so much effort in to convert Christians and nobody else?

Why wouldn't they care about converting Buddhists? Or Hindus? Or Muslims? Or even Jews?

Because Satan's already got them in the palm of his hand.

The Bible itself predicts a world religion and world government under the Antichrist. You hardly hear sermons on it anymore, because everyone just wants their ears tickled and to hear the "prosperity Gospel" like Joel Osteen "preaches". The Bible predicted that many would fall away from the faith and become apostate, too.

A god that tells people to kill is more like the fictitious demons you are talking about.

No, God was actually being merciful if you think about it.

It doesn't matter anymore, though, because Jesus is the new and better covenant. We aren't bound by the Law anymore.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
[B]It's not hard to tell that Christianity is truth.

How's that?

Did you read what I said, or just post?