Originally posted by Mistress-Death
wait arnt you poster who said KH would beat Thanos?
I was messing with Quan when I said that. Read the post after that...I said Thanos would win after a long fight and he would win. WWH is a monster and had 616 Earth on complete lock down and had elites scared of what he would do next. His presence made everyone piss in their pants. Hyperion is good but WWH good...hell naw. Strange even went to the lengths of amping to God levels just to take WWH and he failed.
Originally posted by Mistress-Death
Strange never amped to god levels in the slightest and WWH only faced two top guys at most and then they wasn't clear wins
Strange amped off of Zom powers and everyone basically prepped against the character or basically pissed on themselves before confronting him. Let's also not forget WWH held back the entire issue and it was stated that he held back to prevent himself from killing innocence. Him having the planet on lock is a ft in and of itself.
Originally posted by carver9Strange only used a small portion of Zoms soul and Strange saved Hulk from Zom(this was confirmed in the issue when the Chaos king took over Zom) and Herc and co beat the same Zom power took over Iron Mans armor, Hulk did fear their prep thats why Hulk and co destroyed all the satelites.
Strange amped off of Zom powers and everyone basically prepped against the character or basically pissed on themselves before confronting him. Let's also not forget WWH held back the entire issue and it was stated that he held back to prevent himself from killing innocence. Him having the planet on lock is a ft in and of itself.
Exiles King Hyperion as he was originally portrayed probably would have won, even if just by grabbing Hulk and throwing him into space. Given the way he mostly effortlessly destroyed Thor, Hulk, FF, Magneto etc., even supposedly killing his Galactus, I think the writer intended him as closer to a PC Superman level character thrown into alternate Marvel Universes. Not galaxy-sneezing PC Supes level of course, but more lower end PC Super level, still nearly unstoppable by the heroes and villains.
Then along came the Blue Marvel writer guy wanting to make his own hero look cool by trashing someone big. It had the reverse effect, making KH suddenly seem a lot less impressive than was thought. So either all the alternate heroes he beat must have likewise been much weaker versions, which I think destroyed the Exiles writer's intentions, or this KH was just a weaker alternate version of KH not the one from Exiles.
After that KH kind of went the way of current Count Nefaria and he couldn't even handle DP Juggernaut.
So yeah, the KH that came to 616 would lose to either WWH or Thanos.
Originally posted by Mistress-Death
Strange only used a small portion of Zoms soul and Strange saved Hulk from Zom(this was confirmed in the issue when the Chaos king took over Zom) and Herc and co beat the same Zom power took over Iron Mans armor, Hulk did fear their prep thats why Hulk and co destroyed all the satelites.
Strange was amped to the point that it was mentioned he could have annihilated the planet.
How did Strange save Hulk from Zom when Strange was punching Hulk so hard that it was putting holes in his body? Strange was unleashing on him but was incapable of dropping Hulk whereas Hulk two pieced his a**.
Duuh, of course Hulk feared their prep...this is Reed and Tony we are talking about here. They still had doubts of being able to stop WWH. Hulk had the planet on lock...his mere presence gathered all of Earth defenses together.
Originally posted by basilisk
Exiles King Hyperion as he was originally portrayed probably would have won, even if just by grabbing Hulk and throwing him into space. Given the way he mostly effortlessly destroyed Thor, Hulk, FF, Magneto etc., even supposedly killing his Galactus, I think the writer intended him as closer to a PC Superman level character thrown into alternate Marvel Universes. Not galaxy-sneezing PC Supes level of course, but more lower end PC Super level, still nearly unstoppable by the heroes and villains.Then along came the Blue Marvel writer guy wanting to make his own hero look cool by trashing someone big. It had the reverse effect, making KH suddenly seem a lot less impressive than was thought. So either all the alternate heroes he beat must have likewise been much weaker versions, which I think destroyed the Exiles writer's intentions, or this KH was just a weaker alternate version of KH not the one from Exiles.
After that KH kind of went the way of current Count Nefaria and he couldn't even handle DP Juggernaut.
So yeah, the KH that came to 616 would lose to either WWH or Thanos.
King Hyperion trashed Juggernaut...even broke his leg. He also stomped Blue Marvel until he started boasting. He two pieced him as well. Hyperion was still powerful in the 616 verse.
Originally posted by carver9Very powerful, definitely, as all Hyperions seem to be. But the sort of guy who easily killed everyone on his previous worlds, including guys like Thor and Hulk? and Galactus? And just laughed at them? That's not quite the same level. Something changed. The BM fight seemed to be a classic case of hero holds back or doubts himself in the first round before finding his motivation to let loose and win in the second round.
King Hyperion trashed Juggernaut...even broke his leg. He also stomped Blue Marvel until he started boasting. He two pieced him as well. Hyperion was still powerful in the 616 verse.
Originally posted by carver9The point was don't it make it sound like he went through all these top tiers.
Who was missing that he should have fought that was on earth?
Most of Marvels real top tiers weren't in the arc.
I also forgot Juggernaut, but then again that was a stalemate, So once again WWH didn't walk through a bunch high end people when he assaulted Earth.
Originally posted by carver9A depowered Juggeranut who KH broke his hand on when he tried punching Cain's head 😬
King Hyperion trashed Juggernaut...even broke his leg. He also stomped Blue Marvel until he started boasting. He two pieced him as well. Hyperion was still powerful in the 616 verse.
As for KH in Exiles, I still think people give him way too much credit for his power level. He was very much overhyped when he was only in the Exiles comics.
His 'best' feats were all off panel with no name heroes from alternate dimensions.
His fighting two hyperions feat was already at a time when he was in the Crystal Palace for awhile and had received an amp because of the energies the Palace gave off were being adsorbed by his body.
But here is a look at some of his other feats.
He couldn't stop an asteroid, where as 616 heroes like Thor would have and have had destroyed similar asteroids with ease.
He got his neck broken by Namorita, and got KOed by Exiles Mimic for a bit.
He got blown up by Gambit's energies.