King Hyperion vs World War Hulk

Originally posted by zopzop
Even when CK "unleashed" Zom, Strange was STILL exerting an influence on Zom as seen right before Margo used Death's power to WTFPwn him. A PISless Zomling would annihilate Hulk.

This is the wrong thread to discuss this I think. There was a time during WW Hulk that Zom was in full control of Strange, and he would have killed Hiroim if no one intervened. When he attacked the Hulk all the way up until civilians were in danger of being killed was really the only time that Strange began fighting the possession. Go back and check it out for yourself.Zom was actually in full control up to a point, and the damage that he did on the Hulk was far less impressive than the damage that the Hulk received, and gave during the HOTM story line. Just go back and examine it again. I'm not saying that the Hulk would beat Zom, because that would be crazy, but an Avatar of Zom? Absolutely, provided that the Hulk is going nuts.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yes, after heroim did his magic thing, after he pounded him, after hulk ignored him during the entire comic

i cant help you with your problem then

still waitiiing iceman

i know you didn't read it yet

Originally posted by Stoic
This is the wrong thread to discuss this I think. There was a time during WW Hulk that Zom was in full control of Strange, and he would have killed Hiroim if no one intervened. When he attacked the Hulk all the way up until civilians were in danger of being killed was really the only time that Strange began fighting the possession. Go back and check it out for yourself.Zom was actually in full control up to a point, and the damage that he did on the Hulk was far less impressive than the damage that the Hulk received, and gave during the HOTM story line. Just go back and examine it again. I'm not saying that the Hulk would beat Zom, because that would be crazy, but an Avatar of Zom? Absolutely, provided that the Hulk is going nuts.

I can provide you the scan Stoic. Strange, up till the very end still had some sort of influence on the Zomling. Right as he got his hands on Margo, Strange's personality popped up again and Strange told Margo to fight (Death's influence).

^ thanks to heroim. please recognize that

Originally posted by zopzop
I can provide you the scan Stoic. Strange, up till the very end still had some sort of influence on the Zomling. Right as he got his hands on Margo, Strange's personality popped up again and Strange told Margo to fight (Death's influence).

Yes I am aware of that, but what I was referring to was WW Hulk, not Zom Strange's 2nd appearance. All the same, The Hulk never once went full on postal up until he went to the Dark Dimension, this was maybe the third time in the history of the character, that he has ever fully let go. The Hulk in that state would tear the Zomling's world down around him... literally.

Hulk clearly held back the entire arc.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkintelligence.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkholdingbackagainsthercules.jpg

I'm not referring to him going WBH...I'm saying, even at his WWH levels he was holding back and that much was obvious. If he wanted these heroes dead, they would have been dead. There is even proof he held back against Sentry as well.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes I am aware of that, but what I was referring to was WW Hulk, not Zom Strange's 2nd appearance. All the same, The Hulk never once went full on postal up until he went to the Dark Dimension, this was maybe the third time in the history of the character, that he has ever fully let go. The Hulk in that state would tear the Zomling's world down around him... literally.

The Zomling is the fragment of Zom that survived the wrath of the Living Tribunal. It survived that, it will survive anything the Hulk throws at it. Only PIS/CIS would save the Hulk.

While I can see this as a possibility, I can also see that being housed within a flesh and blood vessel is likely weaker than having a demonic or extradimensional body. The Zomling that we saw was not capable of defeating HOTM Hulk in my opinion. If it were in another body, then I could see it being on a higher level.

Strange's body is likely the weak link. I saw no evidence that, that particular Zomling was greater than WB Hulk. I wouldn't be surprised if a Zomling with a stronger body than Strange's would be able to go toe to toe, with Zeus, or one of his peers, but that one just wasn't that strong. A title no matter how great is still a title, and I see too many people being hung up on them. Look at what the Hulk did to Nightmare in his own realm, or the Shaper of Worlds.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
still waitiiing iceman

i know you didn't read it yet

Originally posted by Stoic
While I can see this as a possibility, I can also see that being housed within a flesh and blood vessel is likely weaker than having a demonic or extradimensional body. The Zomling that we saw was not capable of defeating HOTM Hulk in my opinion. If it were in another body, then I could see it being on a higher level.

Strange's body is likely the weak link. I saw no evidence that, that particular Zomling was greater than WB Hulk. I wouldn't be surprised if a Zomling with a stronger body than Strange's would be able to go toe to toe, with Zeus, or one of his peers, but that one just wasn't that strong. A title no matter how great is still a title, and I see too many people being hung up on them. Look at what the Hulk did to Nightmare in his own realm, or the Shaper of Worlds.

Yeah, I'll give you that. Since he was reintroduced in the WWH arc, the Zomling seems to depend on his host body a lot. The crazy thing is, that is a power/ability/limitation he NEVER exhibited before. He's a being of pure mystic energy and he devours magic. If he devours enough, he'd reform into his full self. This "host body" thing is crapola 🙁

WWH wins.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Kings Hyperion from EXiles wins.

And im leaning towards hyperion.

Originally posted by Damborgson
hey havent heard from you in a while.

And im leaning towards hyperion.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes I am aware of that, but what I was referring to was WW Hulk, not Zom Strange's 2nd appearance. All the same, The Hulk never once went full on postal up until he went to the Dark Dimension, this was maybe the third time in the history of the character, that he has ever fully let go. The Hulk in that state would tear the Zomling's world down around him... literally.

Or, maybe somebody was just exaggerating? You know, these hero types have been known to stretch the truth a bit from time to time... 🙂

Originally posted by Horrificus
Couldn't they just be lying about the Hulk never having gone all out before?

Or, maybe somebody was just exaggerating? You know, these hero types have been known to stretch the truth a bit from time to time... 🙂

Originally posted by Damborgson
hey havent heard from you in a while.

And im leaning towards hyperion.

Matching powers to powers, it shouldn't really matter how strong the Hulk gets.

It's the same old argument that has floated around the boards for years.

But, in the universe this Hulk dwells in, the impossible happens a lot, in his favor. Hulk should have other powers finally made official. Like, reality warping, changing of the laws of physics. Because these are the only explanations for a lot of his higher-level wins.

Originally posted by Horrificus
On paper, numbers to numbers, KH would probably win.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Matching powers to powers, it shouldn't really matter how strong the Hulk gets.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Couldn't they just be lying about the Hulk never having gone all out before?

Or, maybe somebody was just exaggerating? You know, these hero types have been known to stretch the truth a bit from time to time... 🙂

Hey do you question Mangog when he says that he has the power of one billion billion beings? It was pretty evident that the Hulk was holding back, as there are at the very least two identifiable points to refer to.

1. He begged for someone to stop him as he fought to hold back the power that was being released from him. One footfall shows us this much.

2. What happened in the Dark Dimension, proves that he was holding back, or the planet Earth would have been reduced to rubble. if what he did to the Sentry was him holding back, it's pretty obvious that Bob would have been slaughtered, by HOTM Hulk.

It wasn't a lie, or an over exaggeration.

Why The World Breaker would destroy King Hyperion

If we take the fact that Blue Marvel was capable of defeating King Hyperion, and come to realize that Blue Marvel and the Sentry were pretty much in the same weight class, we will come to the conclusion that the Hulk of WW Hulk fame would be above King Hyperion, as he was above the Sentry who happened to be on the Blue Marvel's level. The very idea, that the Hulk was holding back against Bob so that the entire population of Earth would not die, pretty much tells me all that I need to know in order to weigh out who wins this thread.

In conclusion. If the Hulk does not hold back against King Hyperion, he would defeat him handily.

Originally posted by Horrificus
But, in the universe this Hulk dwells in, the impossible happens a lot, in his favor. Hulk should have other powers finally made official. Like, reality warping, changing of the laws of physics. Because these are the only explanations for a lot of his higher-level wins.

👆

I've been thinking this very thing. But oh well, it's the writers that have the final say.