Gladiator vs Thanos (slugfest)

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
LMFAO @ the complete and utter misrepresentation of Thor vs. Future! Gladiator going down here.

Here are the facts to said fight:

1.) Gladiator had prep time and knew that Jake Olsen was the mortal alter ego to Thor.
2.) Gladiator attacked Jake Olsen with heat vision without warning.
3.) Gladiator took a hostage in the form of Olsen's ex-girlfriend's daughter.
4.) Gladiator was fully intending to kill Thor for the entire fight. Conversely, Thor was holding back up until the plane incident.
5.) Gladiator exploited an enchantment that no longer effects Thor.
6.) Gladiator got rocked by Thor once Thor stopped holding back. He later on concedes that Thor is too powerful once he returns to his own timeline.
7.) The "real" Gladiator has already been nearly killed by Masterson-Thor, a less experienced and capable incarnation of Thor as opposed to Olsen-Thor.

Lol at Gladiator tanking the Godblast, too.

Clearly, Gladiator went into that fight with numerous advantages over Thor: was willing to kill him, sneak attacked him as a mortal, took a hostage, etc. He literally had all the cards in his favor and still got demolished by Thor once he stopped holding back and even clear as day states "Thor is too powerful!".

How that is anything but a resounding defeat and display of inferiority to Thor is beyond me.

Thanos survived a shot from Majus with 5 gems. So Thanos is clearly > then the Infinity Gauntlet and the planet busting blows will be only tickle his balls.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Thanos survived a shot from Majus with 5 gems. So Thanos is clearly > then the Infinity Gauntlet and the planet busting blows will be only tickle his balls.

Very durable yes, greater than the IG no. If this were the case he would have never sought after it in the first place, and the one that gave him a power up (Death), would not have been defeated by it either.

Originally posted by leonidas
how is this still open? seriously.... 😕

and i really hope someone didn't ACTUALLY suggest glads could take a godblast.....

Yeah this thread should be closed for spite. A well placed amped punch from Thanos like the one I posted on the first page could probably kill Gladiator.

There are spite threads here which are open but this one isn't one of them imho.

Originally posted by country1000
WOW! where to start debunking these lies. Well, lets get started.
1. gladiator fought thor, not jake olsen.
2. Yet gladiators heat vision missed a human yet he can blast hulk, nova, smasher and a sniper miles away with it. lol
3. He took a hostage to draw out thor just like hulk took one to make thor put down his hammer and fight hulk man to man.
4. Well duh?? YOU ACT AS IF YOU HAVE SEEN MY BEST.. gladiator words.
5. And here we have the worst of these lies... How in the hell did gladiator know that thor would revert back to jake after 60 seconds away from his hammer?? Why would thor allow himself to revert to human form when fighting for his life?? Simple, he was KTFO for 60 seconds and reverted back to jake.. 60 full seconds to get his hammer back is a long time. He was KOED.
6. As if thor was going to die. that was a comic fight, not a unaided forum fight.
7. Masterson thor was beaten, needed help and was scared of gladiator just like the rest of the avengers when they read the fantastic four files on gladiator. Stop cherry picking.

1.) http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/TvsG.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/TvsG1.jpg

"Some like to fight. To wage personal war before a conflict is decided. Not me."

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGladiator03v234.jpg

"I call it heat vision. Excruciating, isn't it?"
He started things off by using a burst of heat vision on Jake Olsen. Read the comic. Or just look at the scans. Also in the second scan, he clearly states, good as day, that he's trying to end this before it even becomes a fight. Aka he's a coward.

2.) He didn't miss. He just didn't intent to kill Olsen then and there. Still doesn't change the fact that Olsen was the entity attacked first, and while Gladiator held a hostage as well.

3.) So he's a coward who knew he couldn't beat Thor straight up and needed plot device to fight on his level? Great showing for Gladiator? ermm At least we can agree that Gladiator needs every advantage he can get in order to beat Thor.

4.) Not even sure what this is supposed to prove? That a bloodlusted, out for the kill Gladiator can't beat, much less kill, a holding back Thor, let alone a Thor who stops holding back?

5.) Try reading the comic. Gladiator came from the FUTURE thanks to the Tomorrow Man. That's why he kidnapped Mandy in the first place and attacked Jake Olsen. Because he knows Thor's secret identity and the fact that his hammer is the key to triggering the transformation to and from his mortal alter ego. Nice try, though. Well, okay, not really, Carver puts up a better resistance for Gladiator than this (no offense, Carv. Maybe just a little).

6.) Jake Olsen was certainly going to die, which would have meant Thor's death, too. It's why the Enchantress, in disguise, rushed to his aid. And lol at bringing up "unaided forum fight". You realize that a forum fight removes Mandy being taken as hostage, Gladiator having one sided prep to ambush Thor, Jake Olsen being attacked, etc.? In a forum fight without plot device, Thor crushes Gladiator. Again.

7.) Masterson was intimidated of Gladiator...until he beat him within an inch of his life. I'm not cherry picking anything, I'm citing actual feats and the results of fights.

So, in short, you have nothing of substance to back your case up aside from "I don't like it, so it didn't happen" and your baseless claims of calling me a liar. You debunked nothing and actually just showed you don't know what you're talking about, especially not about this specific fight.

But hey, let's ask Gladiator what he thinks.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
1.) http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/TvsG.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/TvsG1.jpg

[b]"Some like to fight. To wage personal war before a conflict is decided. Not me."

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGladiator03v234.jpg

"I call it heat vision. Excruciating, isn't it?"
He started things off by using a burst of heat vision on Jake Olsen. Read the comic. Or just look at the scans. Also in the second scan, he clearly states, good as day, that he's trying to end this before it even becomes a fight. Aka he's a coward.

2.) He didn't miss. He just didn't intent to kill Olsen then and there. Still doesn't change the fact that Olsen was the entity attacked first, and while Gladiator held a hostage as well.

3.) So he's a coward who knew he couldn't beat Thor straight up and needed plot device to fight on his level? Great showing for Gladiator? ermm At least we can agree that Gladiator needs every advantage he can get in order to beat Thor.

4.) Not even sure what this is supposed to prove? That a bloodlusted, out for the kill Gladiator can't beat, much less kill, a holding back Thor, let alone a Thor who stops holding back?

5.) Try reading the comic. Gladiator came from the FUTURE thanks to the Tomorrow Man. That's why he kidnapped Mandy in the first place and attacked Jake Olsen. Because he knows Thor's secret identity and the fact that his hammer is the key to triggering the transformation to and from his mortal alter ego. Nice try, though. Well, okay, not really, Carver puts up a better resistance for Gladiator than this (no offense, Carv. Maybe just a little).

6.) Jake Olsen was certainly going to die, which would have meant Thor's death, too. It's why the Enchantress, in disguise, rushed to his aid. And lol at bringing up "unaided forum fight". You realize that a forum fight removes Mandy being taken as hostage, Gladiator having one sided prep to ambush Thor, Jake Olsen being attacked, etc.? In a forum fight without plot device, Thor crushes Gladiator. Again.

7.) Masterson was intimidated of Gladiator...until he beat him within an inch of his life. I'm not cherry picking anything, I'm citing actual feats and the results of fights.

So, in short, you have nothing of substance to back your case up aside from "I don't like it, so it didn't happen" and your baseless claims of calling me a liar. You debunked nothing and actually just showed you don't know what you're talking about, especially not about this specific fight.

But hey, let's ask Gladiator what he thinks.

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Well, lets now use your logic. Answer these please. Could gladiator have killed thor when he saw thor change back to jake? Could gladiator have killed jake in a microsecond when he was talking to jake as he held that woman? When gladiator KOED thor, could he have killed a koed thor before thor hit that truck? He had 60 seconds to kill him... what would have happened if enchantress and thor girl were not there? what would have happened if those two helped gladiator? In other words, you know nothing about comics vs forum battles, for all his faults and calculations, h12 is still a better debater than you. The outcome of a comic fight has no bearing on a forum battle else there would be no debates, but you dont know that i see.

Originally posted by country1000
Dude, you can post all the comic book scans you like, but the fact remains that thor was not going to be allowed to die in that comic, but you are the guy that claims that gladiator destroyed a ( giant space rock ) instead of what the WRITER stated as a planet, so your falsehood extends all over these threads.

Well, lets now use your logic. Answer these please. Could gladiator have killed thor when he saw thor change back to jake? Could gladiator have killed jake in a microsecond when he was talking to jake as he held that woman? When gladiator KOED thor, could he have killed a koed thor before thor hit that truck? He had 60 seconds to kill him... what would have happened if enchantress and thor girl were not there? what would have happened if those two helped gladiator? In other words, you know nothing about comics vs forum battles, for all his faults and calculations, h12 is still a better debater than you. The outcome of a comic fight has no bearing on a forum battle else there would be no debates, but you dont know that i see.

I already posted enough scans to justify my point: that Gladiator needed prep time, a hostage, intimate knowledge of Thor/Jake Olsen, and a sneak attack in order to hang with Thor. You not liking it =/= it not happening. There's no falsehood of mine being spread across any of these threads. It's not my fault I don't whack it to Gladiator pummeling a giant desolate rock/planet and think that single feats makes him >>>> top tiers.

Could Gladiator killed a mortal Jake Olsen? Obviously.

Could Gladiator kill, let alone beat, Thor? Obviously not.

I know the exact different between a comic book fight and a forum fight. In a comic book, Gladiator gets various plot devices in his favor in order to get the upper hand on Thor. In a forum fight, Thor versus Gladiator would be devoid of ex-girlfriend's daughters to be kidnapped and held hostage or mortal alter egos to burn with heat vision.

You wanna get mad that Gladiator, even when holding all the cards, couldn't beat Thor? Get mad, then. Lol @ h1 being a better debater than me, though.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Yeah I remember that, that was pretty brutal.

If Thanos actually amped his punches it probably would've taken less punches to "kill" Surfer. I doubt Gladiator could take many punches from Thanos. When Thanos fought his more powerful doppelganger he punched a hole into his chest with an amped punch.

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Thanos 10/10.
But I will say that Marvel has built Thanos up so much, that this is the only match-up that would be interesting anymore. And even that is pushing it. I can see why COIE happened if all of the characters were this uber and uninteresting. Marvel should think about a hard reboot IMO.

a knock-down-drag-out with uber hulk would also be fun--and is long overdue imo....

9 pages?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I already posted enough scans to justify my point: that Gladiator needed prep time, a hostage, intimate knowledge of Thor/Jake Olsen, and a sneak attack in order to hang with Thor. You not liking it =/= it not happening. There's no falsehood of mine being spread across any of these threads. It's not my fault I don't whack it to Gladiator pummeling a giant desolate rock/planet and think that single feats makes him >>>> top tiers.

Could Gladiator killed a mortal Jake Olsen? Obviously.

Could Gladiator kill, let alone beat, Thor? Obviously not.

I know the exact different between a comic book fight and a forum fight. In a comic book, Gladiator gets various plot devices in his favor in order to get the upper hand on Thor. In a forum fight, Thor versus Gladiator would be devoid of ex-girlfriend's daughters to be kidnapped and held hostage or mortal alter egos to burn with heat vision.

You wanna get mad that Gladiator, even when holding all the cards, couldn't beat Thor? Get mad, then. Lol @ h1 being a better debater than me, though.

Originally posted by country1000
KOING someone with one punch is beating someone. Thor needed help against gladiator in ALL their battles. The odds were stacked in thors favor dude... the enchantress, thor girl and then the big one.. THE WRITER.. those will NOT be present in a forum battle. It takes energy attacks and multiple hammer shots from thor to take down gladiator.. All from a WEAPON.. Not thor the man.. Gladiator the man took thor out with one shot from his fist, not a weapon. Show me thor taking out gladiator without help or a weapon.. you have 10 years to show me.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/UncannyX-Men-107_14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/UncannyX-Men-107_15.jpg

Gladiator wins. Thanos wouldn't even touch him.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator wins. Thanos wouldn't even touch him.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol, I'm done here. I don't know why we are even debating when we agree (bait thread) that Thanos wins 10/10.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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