Originally posted by Fifthchild
It references Wolverine as part of the group that attacks Thor. You seem to be arguing that because Thor quite obviously had the Odinpower when he fought Thor that this makes it somehow unclear as to whether Jurgens meant that he still had it when he fought Hulk/Thing whereas i think the simple application of common sense shows that this is the only interpretation that makes any sense.I dont see why this is causing you such grief then.
As for myself i think creator interviews are always at least interesting, especially when there may be some ambiguity. I dont mean to offend any mods or anything but i'm not really that concerned with the rules of the board as to what constitutes "proof" or anything and would rather see an interesting discussion than two guys trying to prove something to each other all day. As i'm sure anyone who has frequented such boards long enough can attest: at the end of the day you cant force someone else to accept a viewpoint they dont want to anyway.
There was no ambiguity in the comic. it flat out says that the Odin-power is no longer his.
Originally posted by Silent Master
There was no ambiguity in the comic. it flat out says that the Odin-power is no longer his.
Wow is this something we are going to have to do every 5 minutes?
Originally posted by Fifthchild
[quote]Originally posted by Silent Master
The book never states or implies that Thor retained any of the OF.
I think I already said that. Several times.[/quote]
I might suggest there is some ambiguity as to what the Odinpower being "no longer yours" might actually mean or imply or go into the difference between Dr Strange saying something vs the comic saying something but i dont want to have to say the same thing another 5 times. This is fine as is.
Originally posted by carver9Yes, Wolverine cut him. His arm was still connected and then the odinpower was cut off. Fade to a few hours later and even without the Odinpower and having lost an eye and half an arm he still prevailed at his classic power levels.
Wolverine had him holding his arm after slicing him.I'm not impressed with the Destroyer and Hulk stalemated the Destroyer that was powered by Maestro.
Lol...Hulk knocked GR out...lol. Hulk bfred Juggernaut.
Hulk wasn't burned out during the Sentry fight which was proof when he turned back to WWH the next panel.
Hulk has crushed Uru with his hands. Not childish when.this has happened.
Hulk didn't beat the Grider. The Grider was fine and was never defeated things would have gotten interesting if the Hulk wasn't innocent.
Yes, Hulk bfr'd Juggs which isn't impressive I mean Skaar has easily done so as has classic Thor. Thor doesn't need to be near his top game to best Juggs like Hulk does.
You keep repeating yourself and ignoring my point. Hulk needed an event to trigger his rage minus that he was stuck as a puny human.
That doesn't prove anything with regards to the Destroyer. Did the Hulk easily destroy the Destroyer under his own power ? King Thor has Hulk can't say the same because he's far weaker to the point of nonthreat.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And Thor's tanked Celestial attacks, crazy Odin, The Dark Gods, etc. And at classic levels. With the Odin Force, he endured blows that would have one shot killed classic Thor and walked through the Destroyer's disintegration beam...the same attack that killed Thor when it was animated by a random ass mortal. And Balder's spirit >>>> a mortal's.Just like "The Strongest One There Is", amirite?
Hulk dismissing Johnny Blaze =/= Hulk dismissing Zarathos unbound.
Good.
Thor's crushed uru in his hand and has even put Mjolnir back together with his bare hands, no worse for the wear.
You are missing the point. No need to recite Thors durability fts.
I don't think Hulk is the strongest being in Marvel. I don't why you say half the things you say when you already know my thoughts on this crap.
Thor has never crushed Uru.
Originally posted by carver9Thor has never crushed Uru.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Wolverine cut him. His arm was still connected and then the odinpower was cut off. Fade to a few hours later and even without the Odinpower and having lost an eye and half an arm he still prevailed at his classic power levels.Hulk didn't beat the Grider. The Grider was fine and was never defeated things would have gotten interesting if the Hulk wasn't innocent.
Yes, Hulk bfr'd Juggs which isn't impressive I mean Skaar has easily done so as has classic Thor. Thor doesn't need to be near his top game to best Juggs like Hulk does.
You keep repeating yourself and ignoring my point. Hulk needed an event to trigger his rage minus that he was stuck as a puny human.
That doesn't prove anything with regards to the Destroyer. Did the Hulk easily destroy the Destroyer under his own power ? King Thor has Hulk can't say the same because he's far weaker to the point of nonthreat.
Ghost Rider was knocked the hell out until his other side took over. If you keep lying the way you are lying, then I'm going to quit debating against you.
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Sentry never burned WWH out and you don't have a single shed of proof that Banner was unable to turn to WWH, especially when he did it in a couple of panel. Just stop.
Thor got his a** handed to him by Juggernaut and has never beat him in a straight up fight.
A weakened Hulk stalemated an empowered Destroyer and held his own. I'm not impressed with the Destroyer.