Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZI'd argue they are. Even if they have crazy, over-the-top feats, look at CW comics. Ki Adi Mundi does something way above TFU Galen Marek even though he's a weaksauce by comparison - look at Tulak Hord (TOR comics) and Mace Windu (CW cartoon).
or the TOR protags are weak as hell 👆
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Can somebody make a list of feats of Starkiller II?[B]NOTE:
This is not Galen Marek [/B]
TFU II and Empire at War happen just before ANH; it is safe to assume Vader escapes from his prison on the Rebel flagship after Boba tracks them down and causes some trouble.
It's also safe to assume Vader beats Starkiller II by killing Jono Eclipse, effectively enraging Starkiller II to the point where he makes tactical errors reminiscent to Mustafar Vader - and Vader exploits them, killing Starkiller II before ANH.
That is why they aren't going to make a TFU III.
Originally posted by NephthysI meant more obscure characters that are beaten by various classes. Not main characters like Scourge or Barsen'Thor - but the likes of Fulminis. I think it is fair to say "over-exaggeration of feats". This is the way EU the is these days.
Nope.
Starkiller II does have some crazy feats but their relevance can be questioned on the basis of why he was not able to overcome Vader during confrontations (who doesn't have matching feats).
Impressive feats are not always power-oriented; they are often trick(s)-oriented as well.
For example: Vader threw a large platform on position of Starkiller II in a fight. Notice that Vader removed this platform from its base from its weakest point. I believe that experienced Force-users tend to develop some level of shatterpoint abilities and can figure out weaknesses of inanimate objects to exploit them.
Malgus have dealt with very impressive opposition, tanked extremely potent attacks and have superior combat record under his belt. I stick by my original claim in this contest.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Starkiller II does have some crazy feats but their relevance can be questioned on the basis of why he was not able to overcome Vader during confrontations (who doesn't have matching feats).
On this topic: Vader is very good with TK, but combatively, how often has he telekenetically overwhelmed a non-mook?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZI would say ESB Luke was not a mook by any stretch of the imagination. He was far more tempered and determined than Anakin, and improved better because of it.
On this topic: Vader is very good with TK, but combatively, how often has he telekenetically overwhelmed a non-mook?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But he never telekenetically overwhelmed Luke 😉
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Of course to translate this into current canon this feat needs to be greatly exaggerated to an over-the-top degree.
Like Vader rapidly slinging hundreds pieces of machinery at 700 mph whilst Vader and Luke are clashing lightsabers with Man of Steel level contact, use your imagination. Better to use the novelizations so you can.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus > Vader
No offense but I have to disagree with you there. I believe this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Chfg1SGGQ
Explains it far better than I can.
Originally posted by XRKun
Malgus is the better saber duelist
I'm not so sure about that. I think Jensaarai1 is right when he says Malgus's battle prowess owes more to his ability to amp himself with the Force than actual skill as a duelist.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
At the same time. He massacres, feat wise.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Feat wise, he nearly lost to Shaak Ti. He never overpowered any opponent through sheer raw power except Paratus, which was circumstancial. Why should he overwhelm Malgus, who's far more powerful than anyone of Kota, Ti, Paratus, Brood etc?
Feat wise, that would be from the events of the first game. We're dealing with Starkiller from TFU II.
Their similarities are irrelevant. You're comparing Starkiller who struggles with Shaak Tis and Shadow Guards to another who can defeat Darth Vaders, one-shot Star Destroyers, and perform the spectacle that was his atmospheric entry of Kamino. That doesn't wash.
If you wish to say that feats alone aren't enough to guarantee him the win, I'd understand and agree. But feat-wise, he is better than Malgus.