Ron Paul choice of the troops march on the white house

I'm surprised at how little the total comes out to.

I'd think the armed forces and veterans would be donating around the $10 million mark at least.

Troops are broke. We're in a recession yo

I have asked the Paul supporters before and I still do not understand it:

If Paul is about bringing troops home, reducing the Defense Budget, and reining in our foreign bases...why would the troops support him so much? Many people join the military for the adventure; with less adventure, why the support? Many people join to fight the "enemy"; if we stop doing that, why the support. Many people join up because of the career opportunities; with less career opportunities due to a reduced budget, why the support?

The reasons I have been given by friends and family that support Paul are non sequitur to the actual question I ask. "Because he is an honest man that is faithful to the constitution, bla bla bla." That hardly addresses my question. Or am I considering those two things to be separate but they are actually psychologically related? It would appear that Paul's policies on the US Military would breed contempt from the US armed forces. WTF?!?!?!?

Someone with a brain please explain this to me before I punch a guinea pig.

I wonder how many people sign up out of a desire to "defend" America, but aren't thinking of defending it's economic/foreign interests?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have asked the Paul supporters before and I still do not understand it:

If Paul is about bringing troops home, reducing the Defense Budget, and reining in our foreign bases...why would the troops support him so much? Many people join the military for the adventure; with less adventure, why the support? Many people join to fight the "enemy"; if we stop doing that, why the support. Many people join up because of the career opportunities; with less career opportunities due to a reduced budget, why the support?

The reasons I have been given by friends and family that support Paul are non sequitur to the actual question I ask. "Because he is an honest man that is faithful to the constitution, bla bla bla." That hardly addresses my question. Or am I considering those two things to be separate but they are actually psychologically related? It would appear that Paul's policies on the US Military would breed contempt from the US armed forces. WTF?!?!?!?

Someone with a brain please explain this to me before I punch a guinea pig.

edit- On an unrelated note, I'm having an argument with an anti-Call of Duty/Battlefield gamer who's stating that he doesn't understand why people who like "realistic shooters" don't just join the military.

It's kind of weird how there are so many people in the world who don't seem to really understand that choosing to join the military has a very high chance of ending with you getting the shit blown out of you.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I would wager that it's because most of those soldiers don't think the implications through to that level. If I was a soldier in Afghanistan and I heard that the President was ending the war, shortening the budget and bringing us all home, my thoughts would be "**** yeah I get to get out of this shit hole in one piece". Not "wait a minute a smaller budget means less military funding and hook-ups for me after I'm out of here".

So why did they join up to begin with? AHA!

Because there's a world of difference between seeing cool commercials on TV that show soldiers doing cool shit and getting paid lots of money to do it, and experiencing first hand what it's like to sit on your sweaty dehydrated ass doing nothing in the middle of the desert while getting shot at?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
edit- On an unrelated note, I'm having an argument with an anti-Call of Duty/Battlefield gamer who's stating that he doesn't understand why people who like "realistic shooters" don't just join the military.

It's kind of weird how there are so many people in the world who don't seem to really understand that choosing to join the military has a very high chance of ending with you getting the shit blown out of you.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Because there's a world of difference between seeing cool commercials on TV that show soldiers doing cool shit and getting paid lots of money to do it, and experiencing first hand what it's like to sit on your sweaty dehydrated ass doing nothing in the middle of the desert while getting shot at?

I don't know, man. Even you didn't seem that naive at 17. 313

I mean...I know people...but they aren't that dumb.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't know, man. Even you didn't seem that naive at 17. 313

I mean...I know people...but they aren't that dumb.

They are.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I would wager that it's because most of those soldiers don't think the implications through to that level. If I was a soldier in Afghanistan and I heard that the President was ending the war, shortening the budget and bringing us all home, my thoughts would be "**** yeah I get to get out of this shit hole in one piece". Not "wait a minute a smaller budget means less military funding and hook-ups for me after I'm out of here".

edit- On an unrelated note, I'm having an argument with an anti-Call of Duty/Battlefield gamer who's stating that he doesn't understand why people who like "realistic shooters" don't just join the military.

It's kind of weird how there are so many people in the world who don't seem to really understand that choosing to join the military has a very high chance of ending with you getting the shit blown out of you.

We know each other in real life dont we,,,,,,?????

Originally posted by Bardock42
They are.

Thanks for the clarification.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thanks for the clarification.

lol, though really, I do think a lot of people joining up have no clear understanding of how it will actually be, personally I don't think I can imagine how it would be.

Do you think that's wrong?

Originally posted by Bardock42
lol, though really, I do think a lot of people joining up have no clear understanding of how it will actually be, personally I don't think I can imagine how it would be.

Do you think that's wrong?

I certainly do think there is some Naivete going on when they sign up, for sure.

However...when the recruiters come around to our highschool and tried to recruit ever abled bodied young man, multiple times, for the last 2 years of our highschool "career", the young men were HARDLY fooled. I could have been in a particularly isolated group of young men that were highly soclialized beings..........................but that's just complete and utter bullshit. lol! Right after wafting a fart at one of their homies, they would ask, "Did the recruiter try to sell the Army to you guys, too? Lol, what a douchebag."

So this is why I say young men are far from ignorant to what they sign up for.

The two young men from my class that DID sign up for the military were already planning to do so because that's what their fathers did (and they wanted to go into the family business...amirite? awesome ).

Back to my original question because you're smart people and may be able to answer: why do the military peeps support Ron Paul so strongly?

Originally posted by Mairuzu

Combined.

the thing thats such a joke about our government being a free country is many people in the military have said they want to attend Pauls conventions and support him but their superiours they have said wont let them go and support him.The establishment is doing everything they can to keep Paul out of office and since we are not a government of the people like we are SUPPOSE to be where we serve them instead of them serving us like they are suppose to,they will rig the elections to make sure paul does not get in.they have already rigged many for their boy romney.seems like he is the CFR'S poster boy they want in now if not Obama for a second term.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have asked the Paul supporters before and I still do not understand it:

If Paul is about bringing troops home, reducing the Defense Budget, and reining in our foreign bases...why would the troops support him so much? Many people join the military for the adventure; with less adventure, why the support? Many people join to fight the "enemy"; if we stop doing that, why the support. Many people join up because of the career opportunities; with less career opportunities due to a reduced budget, why the support?

The reasons I have been given by friends and family that support Paul are non sequitur to the actual question I ask. "Because he is an honest man that is faithful to the constitution, bla bla bla." That hardly addresses my question. Or am I considering those two things to be separate but they are actually psychologically related? It would appear that Paul's policies on the US Military would breed contempt from the US armed forces. WTF?!?!?!?

Someone with a brain please explain this to me before I punch a guinea pig.

Soldiers are waking up to realize that they are not the enemy and that they are just growing in by the numbers while we continue to occupy their land. Drones have been killing innocents and they believe in "blowback".

I guess they are moral enough to sacrifice seeing the world with killing innocent people.

[QUOTE=13745552]Originally posted by Mairuzu
Soldiers are waking up to realize that they are not the enemy and that they are just growing in by the numbers while we continue to occupy their land. Drones have been killing innocents and they believe in "blowback".

I guess they are moral enough to sacrifice seeing the world with killing innocent people. [/QUOTE

yes many of the soldiers actually have a conscience about our drones killing innocent civillians.also congress has said they want to do away with retirement pension for the military so that directly affects them as well so of course they have turned to ron paul.They see that he is the only one that wants to serve the people instead of wall street and the establishment.]

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Soldiers are waking up to realize that they are not the enemy and that they are just growing in by the numbers while we continue to occupy their land. Drones have been killing innocents and they believe in "blowback".

I guess they are moral enough to sacrifice seeing the world with killing innocent people.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You really think that's the calculation most of these guys have made?

Do you have a better answer to DDM's question? We already know he has a lot of military support (active and non active) and the question is why?