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Originally posted by Glorificus
Just a quick question - how big is the power gap between Elder Gods and Skyfathers? I know Elder Gods are generally supposed to be above the average Skyfather, but high-end ones like Odin have fought Elder Gods like Set and won, so the two tiers can't be that different.
Odin fought Seth.Set is the Elder God.They are multiversal by default,some have higher feats.
Each of the Elder Gods can take on the council and tens of Galactuses and Tyrants.This needs spite in caps lock.
SPITE
Nice bait thread :
"DP" Tyrant - Derives his power from "the ambient life force which binds this universe together" aka the biosphere of every planet in the universe.
Tyrant, even "DP" Tyrant, absorbs biospheric energy even if it's synthesized into other forms of energy
The Gods (Elders included):
They're nothing more than pieces of the Demiurge given form by mortal minds. What is the Demiurge? The sentience of Earth's BIOSPHERE!
Here is handbook (Encyclopedia Mythologica published in 2007) confirmation of the above two scans regarding the nature of the Gods almost word for word :
Tyrant can do it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nuff said.Galactus also sustains himself with biospheric energy and you keep acting like Odin alone would wreck him something fierce and outright beat him if using the Destroyer armor.
Can you spell I.R.O.N.Y.?
"Galactus doesn't need the machine to devour a world. It just makes the energy absorption far more efficient!"
Tyrant's BSE abilities > Galactus'.
^ DP Tyrant used siphoning machines all the time. He used them on all the Herald-level beings. He used Galactus' own siphoning technology to eventually take his energies. Apparently, because they make the energy absorption far more efficient.
Can you spell I.R.O.N.Y. x2? kinda
In any event, your opaque insinuation that Galactus cannot eat Odin because his energy absorption isnt as good as DP Tyrant's is a transparent red herring. Even if Galactus cannot eat BSE from planets as efficiently as DP Tyrant would due to Galactus' reliance on technology, that should not stop Galactus from eating BSE from the Elder Gods and Skyfathers only as efficiently as he eats them from planets.
If the Elder Gods and Skyfathers are nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus can eat them as efficiently as he eats planets? And since they are supposed to be nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus finds them more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
C'mon now, don't retreat from your own theory. Galactus eats Odin? Galactus eats Set? Give him his feeding machines and Galactus eats them even faster? I already know how committed you are to this farce that the Elder Gods/Skyfathers are the functional equivalent of mere BSE. And we all know how you crusaded more months for Odin to beat Galactus. So, no, I'm not above turning your own rationale against you into a bitter pill of a catch-22 for you to swallow.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ DP Tyrant used siphoning machines all the time. He used them on all the Herald-level beings. He used Galactus' own siphoning technology to eventually take his energies. Apparently, because [b]they make the energy absorption far more efficient.Can you spell I.R.O.N.Y. x2? kinda
In any event, your opaque insinuation that Galactus cannot eat Odin because his energy absorption isnt as good as DP Tyrant's is a transparent red herring. Even if Galactus cannot eat BSE from planets as efficiently as DP Tyrant would due to Galactus' reliance on technology, that should not stop Galactus from eating BSE from the Elder Gods and Skyfathers only as efficiently as he eats them from planets.
If the Elder Gods and Skyfathers are nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus can eat them as efficiently as he eats planets? And since they are supposed to be nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus finds them more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
C'mon now, don't retreat from your own theory. Galactus eats Odin? Galactus eats Set? Give him his feeding machines and Galactus eats them even faster? I already know how committed you are to this farce that the Elder Gods/Skyfathers are the functional equivalent of mere BSE. And we all know how you crusaded more months for Odin to beat Galactus. So, no, I'm not above turning your own rationale against you into a bitter pill of a catch-22 for you to swallow. [/B]
The very fact that Tyrant was able to absorb BSE synthesized into the Power Cosmic sans machines and amp off them causing Galactus to stop his attacks, destroys your entire argument.
Also using the machines on the High Heralds was DONE ON PURPOSE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO EAT THEM OR DRAIN THEM FOR HIMSELF. He wanted their power, hence why they were hooked up to the machines in the first place, TO POWER HIS WORLDSHIP.
As stated on panel concerning Galactus, the machines make ABSORBING BSE, even from Planets that are the source of his food, FAR MORE EFFICIENT than him attempting to do it on his own. Sure he can attempt to eat the Gods, since that's all they are is BSE. But without his machines the process would suck.
Originally posted by zopzopYou haven't addressed a single thing I posted. I've already assumed for the sake of argument your arbitrary notion that DP Tyrant's energy absorption is superior to Galactus'... simply because Galactus' machinery makes eating more efficient (lolwut?).
The very fact that Tyrant was able to absorb BSE synthesized into the Power Cosmic sans machines and amp off them causing Galactus to stop his attacks, destroys your entire argument.Also using the machines on the High Heralds was DONE ON PURPOSE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO EAT THEM OR DRAIN THEM FOR HIMSELF. He wanted their power, hence why they were hooked up to the machines in the first place, TO POWER HIS WORLDSHIP.
As stated on panel concerning Galactus, [b]the machines make ABSORBING BSE
, even from Planets that are the source of his food, FAR MORE EFFICIENT than him attempting to do it on his own. Sure he can attempt to eat the Gods, since that's all they are is BSE. But without his machines the process would suck. [/B]
Moving on, if the Elder Gods and Skyfathers are nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus can eat them as efficiently as he eats planets? And since they are supposed to be nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus finds them more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
C'mon now, don't retreat from your own theory. Galactus eats Odin? Galactus eats Set? Give him his feeding machines and Galactus eats them even faster? I already know how committed you are to this farce that the Elder Gods/Skyfathers are the functional equivalent of mere BSE. And we all know how you crusaded more months for Odin to beat Galactus. So, no, I'm not above turning your own rationale against you into a bitter pill of a catch-22 for you to swallow.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You haven't addressed a single thing I posted. I've already assumed for the sake of argument your arbitrary notion that DP Tyrant's energy absorption is superior to Galactus'... simply because Galactus' machinery makes eating more efficient (lolwut?).Moving on, if the Elder Gods and Skyfathers are nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus can eat them as efficiently as he eats planets? And since they are supposed to be nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus finds them more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
C'mon now, don't retreat from your own theory. Galactus eats Odin? Galactus eats Set? Give him his feeding machines and Galactus eats them even faster? I already know how committed you are to this farce that the Elder Gods/Skyfathers are the functional equivalent of mere BSE. And we all know how you crusaded more months for Odin to beat Galactus. So, no, I'm not above turning your own rationale against you into a bitter pill of a catch-22 for you to swallow.
Of course I've addressed in. But you don't like it so you ignore it.
Galactus CAN attempt to eat the Gods since according to on panel information AND the handbooks they are nothing more than BSE given form by mortal minds.
The PROBLEM for Galactus is, sans his machines, his BSE absorption abilities are nowhere near as good as Tyrant's (since Tyrant showed the ability to absorb and amp off even SYNTESIZED BSE on the fly).
^ I haven't once asked you whether Galactus could eat the gods as easily or efficiently as DP Tyrant. Not once. So stop lying about the questions I am posing to you. Even though I can disprove you here, just as answer the simple questions that I am posing to you:
If the Elder Gods and Skyfathers are nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus can eat them as efficiently as he eats planets? And since they are supposed to be nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus finds them more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
C'mon now, don't retreat from your own theory. Galactus eats Odin? Galactus eats Set? Give him his feeding machines and Galactus eats them even faster? C'mon, don't be afraid now.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I haven't once asked you whether Galactus could eat the gods as easily or efficiently as DP Tyrant. Not once. So stop lying about the questions I am posing to you. Even though I can disprove you here, just as answer the simple questions that I am posing to you:If the Elder Gods and Skyfathers are nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus can eat them as efficiently as he eats planets? And since they are supposed to be nothing but pieces of BSE, do you deny that Galactus finds them more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
C'mon now, don't retreat from your own theory. Galactus eats Odin? Galactus eats Set? Give him his feeding machines and Galactus eats them even faster? C'mon, don't be afraid now.
Yes he can eat them as "efficiently" as he absorbs energies from planets, too bad for Galactus that's not very efficient at all. Hooked up to his machines he devours them with ease.
Originally posted by zopzopW.O.W.
Yes he can eat them as "efficiently" as he absorbs energies from planets, too bad for Galactus that's not very efficient at all. Hooked up to his machines he devours them with ease.
You heard it here folks: Galactus snacks on Odin as easily as he snacks planets.
It wouldn't be efficient without his machines, meaning Odin's form/power largely gets torn asunder and most of it dissipates in a cascade of escaping energy like with what would happen if he ate a planet without his machines, but there you have it.
Odin is as munchable as a planet is, according to zopzop. You want to bump that Galactus vs. Odin thread where you peddled your whole "Odin stalemates Galactus and wins if in Destroyer" and amend that to: "Galactus can eat Odin, Odin isn't anything more than a piece of BSE to him"? Or shall I?
Wait, before you do that, answer the second question: do you deny that Galactus finds Elder Gods and Skyfathers more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
W.O.W.You heard it here folks: Galactus snacks on Odin as easily as he snacks planets.
It wouldn't be efficient without his machines, meaning Odin's form/power largely gets torn asunder and most of it dissipates in a cascade of escaping energy like with what would happen if he ate a planet without his machines, but there you have it.
Odin is as munchable as a planet is, according to zopzop. You want to bump that Galactus vs. Odin thread where you peddled your whole "Odin stalemates Galactus and wins if in Destroyer" and amend that to: "Galactus can eat Odin, Odin isn't anything more than a piece of BSE to him"? Or shall I?
Wait, before you do that, answer the second question: do you deny that Galactus finds Elder Gods and Skyfathers more edible than stars (which aren't composed of BSE at all)?
Galactus snacks on (as in absorbs energy from) Odin or any other god created by Demiurge as easily as he does planets but the energy absorption process wouldn't be anywhere near as efficient and hence why he doesn't do it sans his machine.
If Galactus has eaten things OTHER than world's rich in biospheric energy, it still doesn't affect my argument at all. This could have been an anomaly (like when he was supposedly supposed to be munching on Hyperstorm for all eternity) because the characters history is one of him devouring living worlds to power himself.
Originally posted by zopzopThat's all that's necessary. You need say no more. There is no "but." We've already accepted for the sake of argument, that Galactus' machines would super-efficiently eat Elder Gods and Skyfathers. There's no need to repeat it superfluously. It won't win back your dignity.
Galactus snacks on (as in absorbs energy from) Odin or any other god created by Demiurge as easily as he does planetsbut the energy absorption process wouldn't be anywhere near as efficient and hence why he doesn't do it sans his machine.
Originally posted by zopzopI'm not poking holes here. That's not my intent. The fact is, Galactus sustains himself far better with BSE. So Galactus would find Odin or Set more snackable than, say, a star (which isn't BSE at all), right? Just answer the question. There's no tricksies goin on here.
If Galactus has eaten things OTHER than world's rich in biospheric energy, it still doesn't affect my argument at all. This could have been an anomaly (like when he was supposedly supposed to be munching on Hyperstorm for all eternity) because the characters history is one of him devouring living worlds to power himself.
You've already admitted Galactus would eat Odin just like he eats a planet. My inevitably closing the lid on your theory has nothing to do with the above question.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's all that's necessary. You need say no more. There is no "but." We've already accepted for the sake of argument, that Galactus' machines would super-efficiently eat Elder Gods and Skyfathers. There's no need to repeat it superfluously. It won't win back your dignity. I'm not poking holes here. That's not my intent. The fact is, Galactus sustains himself far better with BSE. So Galactus would find Odin or Set more snackable than, say, a star (which isn't BSE at all), right? Just answer the question. There's no tricksies goin on here.You've already admitted Galactus would eat Odin just like he eats a planet. My inevitably closing the lid on your theory has nothing to do with the above question.
Yes he can eat them and there is a BUT. But the absorption of energies is not going to be anywhere near as efficient as if he used his machines. This was stated on panel.
