Thor vs WBH, Thing, She Hulk, Sasquatch, Korg
Thor
vs
WBH, Thing, She Hulk, Sasquatch, Korg
Fight takes place in NYC
Here's the catch: CIS is off for Thor. He is going to whip out his toughest attacks right off the bat, and pull every trick out of his bag that he has. He will destroy anything he has to also, he is unconcerned with any human damage.
Combatants start 1 city block apart.
Originally posted by Stoic
^ That depends on whether or not that blast would actually work on the Hulk. Let's also not forget that WB Hulk was still not at max power. No picture showed up in your post, but i assume it's the blast from Chaos Wars.
its a blast that tore through the chest of an abstract and caused him to release his hold on CW Herc. What would stop it from ending the fight then and there? Especially since a much much much smaller bolt put WWH down.
edit: And yeah that was the blast from CW. sorry for the bad link.
Originally posted by Damborgson
its a blast that tore through the chest of an abstract and caused him to release his hold on CW Herc. What would stop it from ending the fight then and there? Especially since a much much much smaller bolt put WWH down.edit: And yeah that was the blast from CW. sorry for the bad link.
It really depends on how durable the Chaos King was. I'm not of the opinion that a title means that a character is automatically more resistant to all forms of attacks than a particular character that is considered to be at a lower tier.
Let me ask you a series of questions.
1. if Superman constantly says that he is faster than a speeding bullet, and more powerful than a locomotive yadda yadda, would you question this?
2. If the Flash is said to be able to move faster than any mortal, and has said that he could outrace a lightning bolt, would you question this?
3. If Atlas says that he has held up the planet for 1000 years would you question this?
4. The Sentry was said to have had the power of 1,000,000 exploding stars, and released that entire power on WW Hulk. Is there a reason that you should not believe this? If you can believe this, why would you not believe that the Hulk could resist the blast that Thor released in the Chaos Wars? Can you be certain that the blast from Sentry was less than the blast that Thor put out in the Chaos Wars? Like I said, WB Hulk did not reach a limit during the HOTM arc, and could have grown far more powerful.
If a far weaker Hulk can stand up to Thor, what makes anyone so sure that a much more powerful hulk would not put him out like a cigarette butt? Logic dictates that WB Hulk shouldn't have any issues with Thor, whether he breaks out his best suit or not.
Originally posted by Stoic
It really depends on how durable the Chaos King was. I'm not of the opinion that a title means that a character is automatically more resistant to all forms of attacks than a particular character that is considered to be at a lower tier.Let me ask you a series of questions.
1. if Superman constantly says that he is faster than a speeding bullet, and more powerful than a locomotive yadda yadda, would you question this?
2. If the Flash is said to be able to move faster than any mortal, and has said that he could outrace a lightning bolt, would you question this?
3. If Atlas says that he has held up the planet for 1000 years would you question this?
4. The Sentry was said to have had the power of 1,000,000 exploding stars, and released that entire power on WW Hulk. Is there a reason that you should not believe this? If you can believe this, why would you not believe that the Hulk could resist the blast that Thor released in the Chaos Wars? Can you be certain that the blast from Sentry was less than the blast that Thor put out in the Chaos Wars? Like I said, WB Hulk did not reach a limit during the HOTM arc, and could have grown far more powerful.
If a far weaker Hulk can stand up to Thor, what makes anyone so sure that a much more powerful hulk would not put him out like a cigarette butt? Logic dictates that WB Hulk shouldn't have any issues with Thor, whether he breaks out his best suit or not.
Good post.
Originally posted by Stoic
^ it's just that a very powerful blast from Thor did not incinerate Nul Hulk, and Thor was going for the kill. I have yet to see any feats to prove that Nul hulk was toting the kind of power that WB Hulk was, and this is going solely on, on panel feats.
I agree 100% with you. I'm still giving this to Thor though.
Originally posted by Stoic
It really depends on how durable the Chaos King was. I'm not of the opinion that a title means that a character is automatically more resistant to all forms of attacks than a particular character that is considered to be at a lower tier.Let me ask you a series of questions.
1. if Superman constantly says that he is faster than a speeding bullet, and more powerful than a locomotive yadda yadda, would you question this?
2. If the Flash is said to be able to move faster than any mortal, and has said that he could outrace a lightning bolt, would you question this?
3. If Atlas says that he has held up the planet for 1000 years would you question this?
4. The Sentry was said to have had the power of 1,000,000 exploding stars, and released that entire power on WW Hulk. Is there a reason that you should not believe this? If you can believe this, why would you not believe that the Hulk could resist the blast that Thor released in the Chaos Wars? Can you be certain that the blast from Sentry was less than the blast that Thor put out in the Chaos Wars? Like I said, WB Hulk did not reach a limit during the HOTM arc, and could have grown far more powerful.
If a far weaker Hulk can stand up to Thor, what makes anyone so sure that a much more powerful hulk would not put him out like a cigarette butt? Logic dictates that WB Hulk shouldn't have any issues with Thor, whether he breaks out his best suit or not.
Well Skyfathers are generally more resistant to all forms of attack than heralds and trans characters right? So this would stop being true for Ck because...? You would need some proof as to imply to why his durability would not be insane.
Of course because he has proven it many times.
of course he has also proven it.
yep Atlas has done this also.
Of course not. A million exploding suns? Stoic, that would blow up the Earth. Not to mention the Galaxy. Easily. Nothing would be able to withstand the heat radiating off that kinda power. Tony Stark without his armor was next to that blast. He would have been atomized. He didnt even need to get hit by it. Sentry has never demonstrated anything on that level. Its hype. Nothing more.
He can stand up to Thor's melee. Easily. WB hulk anyway. But Thor's BEST would leave nothing to be found of hulk. Thor with CIS off would just wrap hulk in an indestructible whirlwind then hit him with a godblast. Or hurl Mjolnir at him at several times the speed of light making it him over and over again. Or suck the radiation off hulks body with Mjolnir until Mjolnir is ready to burst and give it back in a 10X magic blast. Or create a storm on top of him that can be fealt between dimensions. (a normal flood the earth storm was enough to stop savage hulk for a bit, I assume this would be a natural progression) Or just hit him with the CK lightning bolt and reduce him to nothing.
Originally posted by StoicThat wasn't the same blast. Understand that CK had absorbed 98% of the multiverse. For him to even feel that shows hos powerful it was.
^ it's just that a very powerful blast from Thor did not incinerate Nul Hulk, and Thor was going for the kill. I have yet to see any feats to prove that Nul hulk was toting the kind of power that WB Hulk was, and this is going solely on, on panel feats.
What Thor hit Nul with wasn't even on the level of the bolt he hit the void with imo.
Originally posted by Damborgson
That wasn't the same blast. Understand that CK had absorbed 98% of the multiverse. For him to even feel that shows hos powerful it was.What Thor hit Nul with wasn't even on the level of the bolt he hit the void with imo.
the one he hit Nul with is more awesome than the one he use against CK or Void..Thor hit Nul with everything he got..he even collapse after that..there's no way it's weaker than the one he use against Void..
Originally posted by Damborgson
That wasn't the same blast. Understand that CK had absorbed 98% of the multiverse. For him to even feel that shows hos powerful it was.What Thor hit Nul with wasn't even on the level of the bolt he hit the void with imo.
Yet Thor was going all out in with both blasts. What make one less than the other? Was one scene PIS? Thor was trying to kill Nul Hulk. For all we know the blast that Thor hit the Chaos King with may have tickled the Juggernaut right? Cain is far below the Chaos King in terms of titles and tiers, but Thor has hurled his best at Cain in the past, and it was only capable of pushing him back, but not causing any visible damage. I believe cough... Ok this is what I believe. I believe that most people are hung up on titles, and have failed to take into consideration that very powerful character may have particular weaknesses, where others of a far smaller stature may not have that same weakness.
let's take the X-Men's former foe Adversary for example. Now he was far more powerful than all of the X-Men combined, but Colossus was able to cause him pain, due to his weakness to particular alloys, or Iron pffft. You see where I'm going with this? I would never question CK being far above Galactus let alone a flea like the Hulk, but, the Hulk is very resistant to certain forms of energy, and as proof of this, was physically able to resist being incinerated by Thor's lighting strike when Nul possessed his body. We both read it, and know that Thor was not holding back, and even stated that he was out to kill him.
Chaos King is not the nail in the coffin.
Originally posted by Slaanesh
the one he hit Nul with is more awesome than the one he use against CK or Void..Thor hit Nul with everything he got..he even collapse after that..there's no way it's weaker than the one he use against Void..
Pretty much. His entire body was even glowing before the initial attack. Thor never did anything like this in any other fight.
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg
This was his "all" imo and is more powerful than what he has demonstrated onpanel against any other being.
Originally posted by SlaaneshThor collapsed from going through hell for 4 issues and having a prolonged fight with a high herald and low trans. Not to mention having a cosmic gash in his stomach during this.
the one he hit Nul with is more awesome than the one he use against CK or Void..Thor hit Nul with everything he got..he even collapse after that..there's no way it's weaker than the one he use against Void..
So you are saying that Nul has superior durability CK? Mkay.
The problem in real time vs turned based panel for panel that we see in comics. in real time Thor would not be given the time to do this, and this, and this attack before the Hulk would have his turn to return the favor. In many of their battles the reason that Thor was unable to release his more exotic attacks was because the Hulk was right there in his face. The Hulk would literally have to sit back, while Thor menacingly snarls, and says I'm going to drain the energy from you, whip up gale force cyclonic winds, hurls the hammer at him time and again while as I said sit there and does nothing. The Hulk has options.
