Thor vs WBH, Thing, She Hulk, Sasquatch, Korg

Originally posted by carver9
Pretty much. His entire body was even glowing before the initial attack. Thor never did anything like this in any other fight.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

This was his "all" imo and is more powerful than what he has demonstrated onpanel against any other being.

Carver.... 😄 There are no words that I can produce to explain how wrong that was. More Powerful than ANYTHING he's ever shown? I need to lay down.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yet Thor was going all out in with both blasts. What make one less than the other? Was one scene PIS? Thor was trying to kill Nul Hulk. For all we know the blast that Thor hit the Chaos King with may have tickled the Juggernaut right? Cain is far below the Chaos King in terms of titles and tiers, but Thor has hurled his best at Cain in the past, and it was only capable of pushing him back, but not causing any visible damage. I believe cough... Ok this is what I believe. I believe that most people are hung up on titles, and have failed to take into consideration that very powerful character may have particular weaknesses, where others of a far smaller stature may not have that same weakness.

let's take the X-Men's former foe Adversary for example. Now he was far more powerful than all of the X-Men combined, but Colossus was able to cause him pain, due to his weakness to particular alloys, or Iron pffft. You see where I'm going with this? I would never question CK being far above Galactus let alone a flea like the Hulk, but, the Hulk is very resistant to certain forms of energy, and as proof of this, was physically able to resist being incinerated by Thor's lighting strike when Nul possessed his body. We both read it, and know that Thor was not holding back, and even stated that he was out to kill him.

Chaos King is not the nail in the coffin.

Well look at it this way. Thor was trying to kill Sentry here:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5075/siege3legioncps021.jpg

Even says thats all his power. Yet vastly upstages that power here:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2731/siege01022.jpg

So what? did he go even farther than full power? The first scan was full power right? I mean he said it on panel. No. Shit happens Stoic. Thor saying he's going for the kill does not equal every ounce of power he can muster. Especially when he showed against the CK that that bolt he used on Hulk was not his max.

Are you trying to say that CK may have been weak to Thor's lightning? Unless there is any proof even remotely implying this in anyway then I dont know why that would be.

Like I said unless there is some weakness to godly lightning that I dont know about Im not sure why we are talking about this as if it were some sort of weakness exploitation or something.

BTW Nul was being protected from physical harm by the serpent from the protective spells on his body. If anything THAT would suggest he had something to combat Thor with. Seeing as how he and Angrir were sent specifically by the serpent to take him on. But I have no hardcore proof to there bing a specific protection against Thor's attacks to make that point so its to much of a leap. Regardless Nul was being protected more than WWH would have been.

Again, Thor going for the kill does no instantly suggest full power. He showed that against Surter also. Made a big ass speach about how powerful his strike was going to be only to have it batted aside by the twilight sword. Then without the bigass full power speech upstages the attack in a later issue.

Dont see why not. They are so far beyond each other in tiers that its ridiculous.

Originally posted by Stoic
The problem in real time vs turned based panel for panel that we see in comics. in real time Thor would not be given the time to do this, and this, and this attack before the Hulk would have his turn to return the favor. In many of their battles the reason that Thor was unable to release his more exotic attacks was because the Hulk was right there in his face. The Hulk would literally have to sit back, while Thor menacingly snarls, and says I'm going to drain the energy from you, whip up gale force cyclonic winds, hurls the hammer at him time and again while as I said sit there and does nothing. The Hulk has options.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor collapsed from going through hell for 4 issues and having a prolonged fight with a high herald and low trans. Not to mention having a cosmic gash in his stomach during this.

So you are saying that Nul has superior durability CK? Mkay.

he doesn't look weakened at all..he was taking it to Nul and Thing..he even kill one..u're trying to make Thor look good by saying he take on two high herald while weakened..we don't even know if the writer take the wound in his stomach into play..it's two different writer..

he didn't do shit to CK..he just shot him with lighting and Hellstorm burn CK with hellfire..CK was fine..

Thor.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
he doesn't look weakened at all..he was taking it to Nul and Thing..he even kill one..u're trying to make Thor look good by saying he take on two high herald while weakened..we don't even know if the writer take the wound in his stomach into play..it's two different writer..

he didn't do shit to CK..he just shot him with lighting and Hellstorm burn CK with hellfire..CK was fine..

Thats because he's powerful? I said High Herald and Trans. And Good Lor. Take a lap and think about what you just posted. Matt Fraction wrote both Fear Itself and Galactus seed.

He made him lose his grip on Hercules. Stop hating.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Carver.... 😄 There are no words that I can produce to explain how wrong that was. More Powerful than ANYTHING he's ever shown? I need to lay down.

Well look at it this way. Thor was trying to kill Sentry here:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5075/siege3legioncps021.jpg

Even says thats all his power. Yet vastly upstages that power here:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2731/siege01022.jpg

So what? did he go even farther than full power? The first scan was full power right? I mean he said it on panel. No. Shit happens Stoic. Thor saying he's going for the kill does not equal every ounce of power he can muster. Especially when he showed against the CK that that bolt he used on Hulk was not his max.

Are you trying to say that CK may have been weak to Thor's lightning? Unless there is any proof even remotely implying this in anyway then I dont know why that would be.

Like I said unless there is some weakness to godly lightning that I dont know about Im not sure why we are talking about this as if it were some sort of weakness exploitation or something.

BTW Nul was being protected from physical harm by the serpent from the protective spells on his body. If anything THAT would suggest he had something to combat Thor with. Seeing as how he and Angrir were sent specifically by the serpent to take him on. But I have no hardcore proof to there bing a specific protection against Thor's attacks to make that point so its to much of a leap. Regardless Nul was being protected more than WWH would have been.

Again, Thor going for the kill does no instantly suggest full power. He showed that against Surter also. Made a big ass speach about how powerful his strike was going to be only to have it batted aside by the twilight sword. Then without the bigass full power speech upstages the attack in a later issue.

Dont see why not. They are so far beyond each other in tiers that its ridiculous.

Wasn't Angrir also protected from physical attacks by the Serpent? What was his excuse ? Why was the possessed Ben Grimm slagged, and left nearly dying?

Again CK is far more powerful than Cain right, but an attack from Thor at full blast was incapable of putting him down. So yes I am saying that CK was weak, against certain attacks. I just proved as much with the Juggernaut citation.

Nul Hulk as I pointed out before had far inferior on panel feats in comparison to the events that transpired within the Dark Dimension concerning WB Hulk.

You are posting a scan of the Sentry wanting to die, and lowering his defenses to allow Thor's attack to do just that. Did you notice anything else about that scan in terms of destructive power feats? It in no way threatened to destroy the town that they fought in, let alone a planet, it's surrounding moons, and what ever other physical bodies in that space. WB Hulk was destroying planets without even touching them. Like I said CK is in no way a reason to nail the coffin shut, and say that Thor wins this. I'm not convinced that Thor would be able to stop the Hulk at World Breaking levels from leaping at him, and one shotting him, with the amount of power that he was generating.

Nul was damaged so much that I disagree 100% with the protective spell notion. He was slashed, burned, blowed up, and stabbed but yet he had some protective spells...yeah right.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thats because he's powerful? I said High Herald and Trans. And Good Lor. Take a lap and think about what you just posted. Matt Fraction wrote both Fear Itself and Galactus seed.

He made him lose his grip on Hercules. Stop hating.

oh yeah..it's the same writer..i was thinking about chaos war..my bad..but still..he doesn't look weakened..he was holding his own..the attack he used on Nul is powerful..u saying it's less powerful than the Void one is just silly..he was going all out..

CK wasn't griping anything..he was poking Herc eyes before Thor and Hellstorm attack..i'm not hating..u just love Thor so much..

Originally posted by Stoic
Wasn't Angrir also protected from physical attacks by the Serpent? What was his excuse ? Why was the possessed Ben Grimm slagged, and left nearly dying?

Again CK is far more powerful than Cain right, but an attack from Thor at full blast was incapable of putting him down. So yes I am saying that CK was weak, against certain attack. I just proved as much with the Juggernaut citation.

Nul Hulk as I pointed out before had far inferior on panel feats in comparison to the events that transpired within the Dark Dimension concerning WB Hulk.

You are posting a scan of the Sentry wanting to die, and lowering his defenses to allow Thor's attack to do just that. Did you notice anything else about that scan in terms of destructive power feats? It in no way threatened to destroy the town that they fought in, let alone a planet, it's surrounding moons, and what ever other physical bodies in that space. WB Hulk was destroying planets without even touching them. Like I said CK is in no way a reason to nail the coffin shut, and say that Thor wins this. I'm not convinced that Thor would be able to stop the Hulk at World Breaking levels from leaping at him, and one shotting him, with the amount of power that he was generating.

If he was that just means Thor was still more powerul than him enough to the point where he can still blow a hole in his chest.

Cain took a weakened godblast. That does not prove anything. Thor could barely lift a house when he fought Cain that time. Not to mention Thor idnt going to unleash the power to rip the fabric of reality in New York city. He just needed to stop juggernaut. and he did.

yes. Doesnt mean WB would be able to take it either though. So...

Blowing away the avengers and trying to hold Thor down is lowering your defenses? Actions speak louder than words. and the void clearly did not want to die. Bob did. But the void was still fighting.

Hulk didnt do that feat by himself. He slammed into an equal force. Which while still impressive on his part is not a solo feat. Even if we counted it as a solo feat, so what? Thor has taken enough in his career to lead me to believe that he would not be taken out in one hit. With CIS off hulk wouldnt even land the hit. Unless u want to argue that hulk is faster and more maneuverable than Thor is by jumping at him while Thor is flying. Which is..Incorrect to say the least.

Beta Ray has also destroyed planets from the effects of his attacks while not directly striking them. Against Star Dust I believe. Doesnt mean he was generating more power with each hit than Thor against the void. The world cant be broken every time Thor decides to use his powers. Just like they didnt let Hulk and She Rulk destroy the earth when they stomped Fin Fang Foom despite being even stronger than when they slammed into each other and no longer holding back. Why didnt the earth like turn to dust if they are so powerful? Because planets that are necessary to the story cant explode every time a powerful attack is unleashed.

If Thor hits him with that type of power its over. I think abstract affecting lightning is a reasonable step up for WB hulk from the lightning that Zeus used to KO WWH right?

Originally posted by carver9
Nul was damaged so much that I disagree 100% with the protective spell notion. He was slashed, burned, blowed up, and stabbed but yet he had some protective spells...yeah right.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
oh yeah..it's the same writer..i was thinking about chaos war..my bad..but still..he doesn't look weakened..he was holding his own..the attack he used on Nul is powerful..u saying it's less powerful than the Void one is just silly..he was going all out..

CK wasn't griping anything..he was poking Herc eyes before Thor and Hellstorm attack..

He had his tendrils wrapped on Hercules and was stabbing him though his eyes. Not like standing at a distance and poking him....

Originally posted by Damborgson
Sure go ahead and ignore my previous posts. I already responded to these points. Please look through the thread.

He had his tendrils wrapped on Hercules and was stabbing him though his eyes. Not like standing at a distance and poking him....

to lazy to do that..

no he doesn't..u are making things up..his tendril wasn't warping anything..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
to lazy to do that..

no he doesn't..u are making things up..his tendril wasn't warping anything..

One moment his tendrils are on Chaos War Herc. he gets his by lightning, suddenly herc is free. Yeah dude im making stuff up. Go troll someone else. You stil have a ways to go before being effective at it scrub.

Originally posted by Damborgson
If he was that just means Thor was still more powerul than him enough to the point where he can still blow a hole in his chest.

Cain took a weakened godblast. That does not prove anything. Thor could barely lift a house when he fought Cain that time. Not to mention Thor idnt going to unleash the power to rip the fabric of reality in New York city. He just needed to stop juggernaut. and he did.

yes. Doesnt mean WB would be able to take it either though. So...

Blowing away the avengers and trying to hold Thor down is lowering your defenses? Actions speak louder than words. and the void clearly did not want to die. Bob did. But the void was still fighting.

Hulk didnt do that feat by himself. He slammed into an equal force. Which while still impressive on his part is not a solo feat. Even if we counted it as a solo feat, so what? Thor has taken enough in his career to lead me to believe that he would not be taken out in one hit. With CIS off hulk wouldnt even land the hit. Unless u want to argue that hulk is faster and more maneuverable than Thor is by jumping at him while Thor is flying. Which is..Incorrect to say the least.

Beta Ray has also destroyed planets from the effects of his attacks while not directly striking them. Against Star Dust I believe. Doesnt mean he was generating more power with each hit than Thor against the void. The world cant be broken every time Thor decides to use his powers. Just like they didnt let Hulk and She Rulk destroy the earth when they stomped Fin Fang Foom despite being even stronger than when they slammed into each other and no longer holding back. Why didnt the earth like turn to dust if they are so powerful? Because planets that are necessary to the story cant explode every time a powerful attack is unleashed.

If Thor hits him with that type of power its over. I think abstract affecting lightning is a reasonable step up for WB hulk from the lightning that Zeus used to KO WWH right?

At the moment that Sentry was defeated, he lowered his defenses and allowed thor to kill him, unless you believe that Thor's attack was somehow superior to Owen Reece separating the Sentry on the molecular level. Bob even states that he wanted to die. He said to kill him, or he would have simply come back to life like he did when Owen killed him. Dead is dead.

Cyttorak is is less powerful than CK but do you believe that Thor's best would harm him? I don't, but this does not mean that he was more powerful than CK, it simply means that he is stronger than CK to certain forms of attack. The same can be said of Zeus, and what did CK do to him?

If the Hulk would have slammed into Thor with that amount of force it would have put Thor on his @$$, it might have even put him in a coma, or worse, straight up killed him concerning HOTM arc. Thor fought a much weaker Merged Hulk than WB Hulk in the arctic, and was unable to put him down. This is why logic should dictate that a Hulk that was at the very least 1000x or more powerful than Merged Hulk would during HOTM could, would, and should dust a regular Thor with or without CIS.

The Savage Hulk could leap at speeds 11x times the speed of a bullet, and we all know that he gets this leaping power from the strength of his legs. HOTM Hulk in comparison, and by logic would exceed this leaping speed by no less than 1000x and growing, since he continues to increase in strength, and durability. In essence he would punch right through a flash storm right at the beginning of combat,and end this faster than Thor could scream Zounds. This is if we go by logic, and the Hulk was equally out to shed Thor's blood.

What about that tactical mind that the Hulk has been shown to possess time and again? This is not as cut and dry as anyone should suspect, or expect. There is one thing that is a certainty. WB Hulk is Thor's physical superior. This is solidly based on Thor's past performances against the Hulk at far, I said far inferior levels.

Originally posted by Damborgson
If you're to lazy to scroll a page then stfu. 😐

One moment his tendrils are on Chaos War Herc. he gets his by lightning, suddenly herc is free. Yeah dude im making stuff up. Go troll someone else. You stil have a ways to go before being effective at it scrub.

not gonna do that..

u said griping,warping and shit..he wasn't doing that..he was just poking herc eyes..then he got attack by Thor and Hellstorm..of coz he turn his attention to his attacker..

😂 @ the highballing of thor here.

WBH incinerates Thor instantly. The rest just sit and laugh at the ridiculousness of how easy it was.

WBH for the stomp win.

Thor BFRs Hulk into space instantly, possibly shooting him in the sun.

Non-PIS Thor wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂 @ the highballing of thor here.

^ Yeah it's the type of OP that allows one poster to say that Thor would do this while the Hulk stands there and takes it up the @$$ as if this were some Dragon Ball Z episode where Frieza sit there and allows Goku 20 minutes or so to create a spirit bomb. What's worse is whoever is arguing for Thor will say in one instance that Thor whips up a huge storm, and then changes their stance once they realize that the Hulk's first move is to leap at him at speeds that are logically impossible for them to dodge or react to.

After all Thor has never been tagged by anything less than object moving at the speed of light, so then the poster arguing for Thor will then shift their argument to, noooo, Thor would actually begin his soul destroy tactic, before the Hulk reaches him in a fraction of a second after the battle has begun, but noooo, now Thor begins erects an impenetrable wind barrier. How many damn moves does Thor get before the fraction of a second is up, and the Hulk is all over him physically beating the sh1t out of him. Oh but now Thor BFRs him before the fraction of a second is up, because after all Thor has never done this in any fight, with anyone in the entire history of the character but we are supposed to just accept that within the fraction of a second that it takes the Hulk to get to him, that he reacts because he can sense danger like Spiderman, and move out of the way, and BFR the Hulk. Bullsh1t.