Onslaught vs JLA

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Originally posted by country1000
Hulk has dynamic strength and his strength increases based on his emotional state, superman does NOT have a power set anywhere close to hulks.

There is not one writer in DC that will tell you superman emotional state can put him above CM or Black Adam. But there are writer who HAVE placed Black Adam Above superman.

Well of course, he's the hero, he better win more. Now if he was a bad guy, it would be the opposite.

Actually Superman does get more powerful based on his emotional state, and the comics have outright stated this.

He's been made powerful enough to beat people that are supposed to be his peers.

"He's the hero" isn't a valid excuse on this forum. A person has the feats, or they don't. Superman does.

Originally posted by country1000
Hulk has dynamic strength and his strength increases based on his emotional state, superman does NOT have a power set anywhere close to hulks.

There is not one writer in DC that will tell you superman emotional state can put him above CM or Black Adam. But there are writer who HAVE placed Black Adam Above superman.

Well of course, he's the hero, he better win more. Now if he was a bad guy, it would be the opposite.


Really, cuz I can show you on-panel proof that the more angry superman gets, the more sunlight he absorbs and the stronger he gets. Who has placed black adam above superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really, cuz I can show you on-panel proof that the more angry superman gets, the more sunlight he absorbs and the stronger he gets. Who has placed black adam above superman?

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saved me the trouble of posting it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really, cuz I can show you on-panel proof that the more angry superman gets, the more sunlight he absorbs and the stronger he gets. Who has placed black adam above superman?

Absorbing sunlight to get stronger is the WORST thing to show dude. Thats not dynamic strength, can he absorb sunlight at night? Hulk can get stronger day, night or under ground.. ANYWHERE and ANYTIME. Thats dynamic strength. sunlight is supermans power source anyway.

Originally posted by country1000
Absorbing sunlight to get stronger is the WORST thing to show dude. Thats not dynamic strength, can he absorb sunlight at night?

Is that a serious question?

Originally posted by country1000
Absorbing sunlight to get stronger is the WORST thing to show dude. Thats not dynamic strength, can he absorb sunlight at night? Hulk can get stronger day, night or under ground.. ANYWHERE and ANYTIME. Thats dynamic strength. sunlight is supermans power source anyway.

Lulz, so superman gets weaker in night, right? You didn't answer my question, who has placed black adam over superman?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Is that a serious question?
My point is this. Can superman get angry or stressed and start getting stronger WITHOUT an outside source? Sunlight is his power source, scans of him absorbing sunlight under stress does NOT constitute dynamic strength. The madder superman gets the stronger superman gets will NEVER come out of ANY DC writers mouth.

Originally posted by country1000
My point is this. Can superman get angry or stressed and start getting stronger WITHOUT an outside source? Sunlight is his power source, scans of him absorbing sunlight under stress does NOT constitute dynamic strength. The madder superman gets the stronger superman gets will NEVER come out of ANY DC writers mouth.

Why doesn't it constitute it?

But it did, as the scan said.

You're missing the point. The sun IS his power. He has an inner store of it at all times. Even when he's flying through Metropolis scratching his ass because the only thing to bother him is some muggers, he's still absorbing solar energy. It doesn't just switch off, even at night.

His emotional state means he accesses more solar energy, and gets more powerful. It's that simple.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz, so superman gets weaker in night, right? You didn't answer my question, who has placed black adam over superman?
Did i say he gets weaker at night? I asked " can he absorb sunlight at night "

JLA. Multiple herald level characters are enough to best onslaught imo.

And Superman has greater feats of strength than Hulk. Just saying.

Fate solos.

Originally posted by country1000
Did i say he gets weaker at night? I asked " can he absorb sunlight at night "

The answer is obviously yes.

Originally posted by country1000
Did i say he gets weaker at night? I asked " can he absorb sunlight at night "

So you're implying he can't absorb sunlight at night so he must be getting weaker as shown in final night, right? What an idiotic notion!

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why doesn't it constitute it?

But it did, as the scan said.

You're missing the point. The sun IS his power. He has an inner store of it at all times. Even when he's flying through Metropolis scratching his ass because the only thing to bother him is some muggers, he's still absorbing solar energy. It doesn't just switch off, even at night.

His emotional state means he accesses more solar energy, and gets more powerful. It's that simple.

But he CANNOT get stronger or more poweful without the sun helping him. Absorbing sunlight while stressed has NEVER placed him over BA or CM, his equals in strength with BA being stronger IMO AND the opinion of some writers. You cannot show ONE fight where this has happened against them or any other character.

Originally posted by country1000
But he CANNOT get stronger or more poweful without the sun helping him. Absorbing sunlight while stressed has NEVER placed him over BA or CM, his equals in strength with BA being stronger IMO AND the opinion of some writers. You cannot show ONE fight where this has happened against them or any other character.

What do you mean, the sun "helping him"? He doesn't have strength period without the sun, so you're just arguing semantics right now. If I get stronger because of a burst of adrenaline, is that an outside source helping me?

Why the fascination with BA or CM? Which writers said they were stronger?

Sure I can. Pretty much every fight where Superman has gotten a second wind and completely annihilated a villain that had been threatening him only moments before.

Originally posted by country1000
But he CANNOT get stronger or more poweful without the sun helping him. Absorbing sunlight while stressed has NEVER placed him over BA or CM, his equals in strength with BA being stronger IMO AND the opinion of some writers. You cannot show ONE fight where this has happened against them or any other character.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz, so superman gets weaker in night, right? You didn't answer my question, who has placed black adam over superman?

Originally posted by Odekahn
JLA. Multiple herald level characters are enough to best onslaught imo.

And Superman has greater feats of strength than Hulk. Just saying.

He also has greater strength feats than galactus. just saying.

Originally posted by country1000
He also has greater strength feats than galactus. just saying.

So galactus=hulk. You learn new things everyday.

Originally posted by country1000
He also has greater strength feats than galactus. just saying.

Your point?

Originally posted by -Pr-
What do you mean, the sun "helping him"? He doesn't have strength period without the sun, so you're just arguing semantics right now. If I get stronger because of a burst of adrenaline, is that an outside source helping me?

Why the fascination with BA or CM? Which writers said they were stronger?

Sure I can. Pretty much every fight where Superman has gotten a second wind and completely annihilated a villain that had been threatening him only moments before.

Do you really think that superman going from getting threatened and then catching a second wind and then annihilating a VILLAIN is proof of dynamic strength?? If thats the case, then EVERY hero ever created has dynamic strength. Thats what happens in comics since the 60s, hero meets threat, threat knocks hero around, hero gets up and beats threat, end of book and book goes in the collection pile. But its late, we will finish this later. Goodnight.