Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Over what topic exactly? Onslaught Hulk versus Superman?I accept.
Over tier and strength. Over Thor, Superman, Black Adam, Savage Hulk, Doomsday, The General, Orion, Captain Marvel, all of these people being in the same tier strength wise.
No need to do Onslaught Hulk vs Superman since it is obvious who is stronger.
Originally posted by carver9
Over tier and strength. Over Thor, Superman, Black Adam, Savage Hulk, Doomsday, The General, Orion, Captain Marvel, all of these people being in the same tier strength wise.No need to do Onslaught Hulk vs Superman since it is obvious who is stronger.
So you do want to debate that all those guys generally belong in the same tier?
But you don't want to debate Onslaught Hulk vs. Superman, even though it's obvious and as such, would be a pretty easy win for you?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you do want to debate that all those guys generally belong in the same tier?But you don't want to debate Onslaught Hulk vs. Superman, even though it's obvious and as such, would be a pretty easy win for you?
Lol...Jake, do you want to battlezone this or what? Do you not believe the people that I've named are NOT in the same tier strength wise?
Originally posted by JuntaiSuperman DOES NOT have dynamic strength. Not holding back does not make him any stronger. He does not want to hurt NORMAL people, he has went all out against people that are as strong or stronger and got beat. YOU just joined jake by saying that superman has unlimited strength or no known limit. There are people on KMC that KNOW superman and collect his comics too. Dont think that you have ALL the knowledge on superman buddy.
All of Superman's powers, including Strength increase dramatically depending on his stress/anger/need. Superman isn't akin to a solar panel in the sense that he's powered by the rays that hit him, he actually ABSORBS power from the sun itself while in it's light, and increases it subconconsciously as he needs it. The more stressful and pressing the situation, the more he takes in.It's not only his strength that's dynamic and stretches limitlessly, it's ALL of his powers.
It doesn't matter on the forum unless it's specified that it's happening in the dark or away from the sun.
Hulk's strength isn't dynamic because he can get stronger still in the dark, but because it stretches to no known limit, just like Superman's.Black Adam backed down from Clark when Superman started ramping up his power.
"Not holding back" makes him stronger because he drops his mental limiters he's put over his own powers so he doens't hurt people. This is why typically when facing a tough new opponent, he'll struggle, then later once he's gauged how far he can go, he just spins in a circle and beats them or something equally easy. lol.
The rant about him struggling and then spin a circle and beats some tough new opponent applies to EVERY hero ever created. thor, batman, captain america, spiderman, the x-men, the avengers and HUNDREDS of others do it nearly EVERY issue.
For the people that run here stalking carver, it would look better if you all did not run here to defend superman LIKE YOU DO IN every THREAD superman is in. Carver is right, EVERY TIME hulk gets stronger, you come and make superman stronger to match that hulk, i guess if the next hulk gets hit with a ray to make him 5 times stronger than WBH, you all will come claim that superman will enter a state of Warrior Madness or take his dial to 21.
Originally posted by country1000
Superman DOES NOT have dynamic strength. Not holding back does not make him any stronger. He does not want to hurt NORMAL people, he has went all out against people that are as strong or stronger and got beat. YOU just joined jake by saying that superman has unlimited strength or no known limit. There are people on KMC that KNOW superman and collect his comics too. Dont think that you have ALL the knowledge on superman buddy.The rant about him struggling and then spin a circle and beats some tough new opponent applies to EVERY hero ever created. thor, batman, captain america, spiderman, the x-men, the avengers and HUNDREDS of others do it nearly EVERY issue.
For the people that run here stalking carver, it would look better if you all did not run here to defend superman LIKE YOU DO IN every THREAD superman is in. Carver is right, EVERY TIME hulk gets stronger, you come and make superman stronger to match that hulk, i guess if the next hulk gets hit with a ray to make him 5 times stronger than WBH, you all will come claim that superman will enter a state of Warrior Madness or take his dial to 21.
Originally posted by country1000
Dude, you think that superman has Unlimited strength. Why would people even listen to you let alone BZ you.
Already discussed this with you once before, chap. You still didn't point out all the Superman fans who thought I was an idiot or whatever for saying that Superman has a feat in which he lifted infinite weight...which according to Final Crisis, he does. Doesn't mean that he generally possesses infinite strength. A little grasp on things such as critical thinking and logic would go a long way.
Besides, who wouldn't listen to me? I'm an ultra-charismatic and well trusted source of comic information. 😎
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Already discussed this with you once before, chap. You still didn't point out all the Superman fans who thought I was an idiot or whatever for saying that Superman has a feat in which he lifted infinite weight...which according to Final Crisis, he does. Doesn't mean that he generally possesses infinite strength. A little grasp on things such as critical thinking and logic would go a long way.Besides, who wouldn't listen to me? I'm an ultra-charismatic and well trusted source of comic information. 😎