Originally posted by cdtm
How? He was only causing superficial damage.If he couldn't put him down while stabbing him directly to the throat....
And Ragarok was only causing superficial damage too. He couldn't put down Wolverine while bashing him repeatedly in the face and smoking him with lightening... durthor
On the ground Wolverine actually maneuver and dodge, and use his speed advantage. Get some power behind his attacks. Eventually he hits something vital in the operation of Clor's robotics, or he lops his head off.
From what I remember of their fight, it looked like it was really not in Wolverine's best interest to get hit by that third blow. I'm willing to bet that it would have finished off Wolverine -or at least ended the fight- if it had landed.
Anyways, Ragnarok wins sooner or later. If he lets Wolverine get in close (I.e. not just frying him with lightning) he'll bleed but that will piss him off more than anything. Wolverine would last longer against the relatively brainless Bendis version, the one from the initiative showed some intelligence.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
From what I remember of their fight, it looked like it was really not in Wolverine's best interest to get hit by that third blow. I'm willing to bet that it would have finished off Wolverine -or at least ended the fight- if it had landed.Anyways, Ragnarok wins sooner or later. If he lets Wolverine get in close (I.e. not just frying him with lightning) he'll bleed but that will piss him off more than anything. Wolverine would last longer against the relatively brainless Bendis version, the one from the initiative showed some intelligence.
Has Ragnarok gone against any heavy hitters?
I've seen the Volstagg fight, and of course Civil War, but is he even half of what Thor is? Class 100, even?
Originally posted by cdtmNo.
Has Ragnarok gone against any heavy hitters?I've seen the Volstagg fight, and of course Civil War, but is he even half of what Thor is? Class 100, even?
But he's more than enough to smash Wolverine, like what was shown.
And if we assume all the non coherent noises and ragdoll body like physics weren't enough, then that last blow was going to end his face to death.
Originally posted by cdtm
Has Ragnarok gone against any heavy hitters?I've seen the Volstagg fight, and of course Civil War, but is he even half of what Thor is? Class 100, even?
He held his own against Hercules off panel then was destroyed by a hammer blow. He also fought Thor, although from what I remember; it was implied he got an upgrade when he regenerated IIRC.
Thor is comfortably above Ragnarok (At least when annoyed) but the clone is easily Class 100. I'd wager his stronger than beings like Thing or Colossus (Or on par), and would take them down in a fight.
ODG posted everything relevant regarding the clone, including the fight with Thor and the Initiative:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=522796&pagenumber=7
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
From what I remember of their fight, it looked like it was really not in Wolverine's best interest to get hit by that third blow. I'm willing to bet that it would have finished off Wolverine -or at least ended the fight- if it had landed.Anyways, Ragnarok wins sooner or later. If he lets Wolverine get in close (I.e. not just frying him with lightning) he'll bleed but that will piss him off more than anything. Wolverine would last longer against the relatively brainless Bendis version, the one from the initiative showed some intelligence.
Your bet would be wrong, and presumption not supported by the actual fight. Wolverine was shrugging off Clor blows and made zero indication he could not keep on doing so.
I disagree again there no reason to assume Wolverine cant put him down. He was landing more hits in mid air then clor was and seemed no worse then clor.
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Rag wins, sure logan gets some stabs in the first few moments but after that he would be smacked away and then bombarded with lighting. Did rag ever display any form of a omni blast attack? I thought he did but don't remember. That would help him but I don't think Rag would get messed up but logan more so.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Rag wins, sure logan gets some stabs in the first few moments but after that he would be smacked away and then bombarded with lighting. Did rag ever display any form of a omni blast attack? I thought he did but don't remember. That would help him but I don't think Rag would get messed up but logan more so.
Rag was not even capable of smacking away Wolverine while in mid air, what makes you think he do better on the ground? Also Wolverine took full blst of lightning from Clor and was still fighting. Why assume he would be put down by it in a forum match?
Please, even in there fight Clor had just as much damage done to him as Logan received from Clor. or did you miss that 11 stabbs he took? and the clear signs of pain from thoses stabbs?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Rag was not even capable of smacking away Wolverine while in mid air, what makes you think he do better on the ground? Also Wolverine took full blst of lightning from Clor and was still fighting. Why assume he would be put down by it in a forum match?Please, even in there fight Clor had just as much damage done to him as Logan received from Clor. or did you miss that 11 stabbs he took? and the clear signs of pain from thoses stabbs?
What does being in the air and having the ability to smack someone away have anything to do with each other. But anyway I would imagine that you would have a lot more leverage on ground then just floating in the air anyway.
Okay he took a full blast, how about multiple full blasts, does Rag have only a single charge to use his lighting? Is it limited some how in it's uses? Not that I know of.
I think repeated smacks coupled with repeated lighting blast would put down Wolverine sooner than wolverine stabbing and clawing rag to death. It was not as if the blast had no affect on him or he just walked through it like it was rain.
Yes I know he was in pain I never doubted that.
I like Ragnorak. He's a crazy guy!
There is no reason why he shouldn't be able to beat Logan in a few different ways.
On a side not, I really thought Volstagg's showing was very cool. Personally, I enjoy a story where the hero is the underdog, but has a lot of heart. I would like to see Volstagg on a real adventure at some point.
Is there any reason not to believe that Volstagg shrugged off the same lightning strike that killed Goliath?