Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
thanksI am not trying to argue that at all. I am saying logan suffered from lack of leverage more so then clor. Which is why I said you argueing leverage for clor was foolishness. Clor can fly, Wolverine cant. So if anyone would be impacted from lack of leverage in there initial fight it would have been Wolverine nor Clor.
But I agree with your above statement. But that simply was not what I was argueing
Agreed.
Except that gives his opponent more time to heal, while he can’t. Also think you very much underestimate how fast wolverine is. It not even a given he can hit Wolverine with them at range nor does Clor use such tactics in battle. So whats the point of knocking him away if he gunna simply take it melee again? Especially against a healer?
Wait for logan to get back up? Logan faster then Clor is. He getup well way before Clor next attack would even land. That’s why I don’t get how you think this is effective strategy. Your giving Wolverine more time to heal pretty much the last thing you want him to do.
Which part? It hard to tell since your not quoting me.
When has he ever used this stratagey before? Were he knocks opponent away they tries to lighting him as part of a battle plan?
Again why do you assume it will even land? You entire assumption is based off a strategy Clor never used and based off the assumption the faster combatant it going to for some reason sit in place and let him self get lightning.
Again his power is healing . Fact he gets injuried does not translate into him going down, he heals that’s his power. He gets injuried and heals the damage. Clor doesent heal when he gets injuried the injuries will remain.
Again you keep being under some impression Wolverine just gunna sit there and slug it out, he not. He sigincantly faster and more skilled. He going to be landing far more shots and getting tagged far less. You are not understanding how much of a disadvantage Wolverine was in, in there first fight. He had no ability to dodge he was out of his element. On the ground he has no such trouble. Clor will be getting lit up for ever one attack he lands. I don’t think you are factoring in the fact Wolverine has a signicant combat speed advantage.
It lasted for two pages, that’s not that short of a fight. Yes he killed Goliath with it, but again that was the only time he used it in that fight. He uses it every fight does no translate into him using it numerous times in a single fight. Because he doesent. He uses minimally and nothing on the level you are suggesting he would in a fight with Wolverine.
Again there is no evidence that supports this stance that Logan would be Koed before rag died from blood loses. Also what would happen if Wolverine stabbed Rag through the head?, cut his head off? Cut his arm off, leg ect? All things within Wolverines ability to do especially the head stab. Things you are completely over looking. Wolverine much much much much more skilled and significantly faster.
It is when you using it to indicate who doing more damage. Wolverine using piercing attacks, he not using blunted weapons and relying on superior strength to take his foe out.
You mean a single other ability lightning. While Hulk has massive healing factor which allows he to take Wolverine stabs in stride, which Rag does not have and Hulk is significantly stronger and more powerful then Clor.
Oh you mean that lighting he uses very minimally in ever fight? Sorry about how does one or two lightning strikes change the out come of this fight? How do you know they even land against the faster opponent?Your relying on stratagies Clor does not even uses and relying on Wolverine simply staying in place and allowing himself to be hit. You assume much based off very little if any evidence.
What?
You do understand he did that jumping off a building right? And still had to jump like 40 feet? Also what doe shim being able to leap at Clor have anything to do with the fact logan literally had to stab Clor with one arm to stay airborne while attack with the other? You do understand he was dangling from his arms and had not footing right? I don’t understand how you don’t see that being disadvantage. While his opponent was staying airborne through his own powers.
For starters your missing the entire point. It has nothing to do with his leaping. It the fact he was literally hang from one arm and attacking with the other. He had not foot he lack any real leverage.
Also what does some one launching him have anything to do with anything? Of course if colossus throws him, he could do more damage. That just a stupid argument in it self.
Are you kidding me? Is this some sort of joke? How does not having the ability to utilize your feet not effect your mobility. Do you understand how utterly absurd your argument is?
Well you be mistaken sicne he done it numerous times and against Rag himself no less.
Just like to apologize for some confusion you might have with matching my responses to what you are saying... i ugh never looked into how to quote specific parts of another person's text like you are doing... 😮
Also it is apparent we disagree on some fundamentals about each character/tactics and what is and what isn't a advantage /disadvantage. I would just like to end with, Rag may not immediately and repeatedly use the "Attacking logan cqc and when things get too rough hit him away strike him with lighting and press the attack again" but I do believe it is a tactic within his ability and mind set to use to win some fights against logan.
You do bring up some good points but i still believe Ragnorak will come out on top in a confrontation even if barely and not even 100% of the time.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Just like to apologize for some confusion you might have with matching my responses to what you are saying... i ugh never looked into how to quote specific parts of another person's text like you are doing... 😮Also it is apparent we disagree on some fundamentals about each character/tactics and what is and what isn't a advantage /disadvantage. I would just like to end with, Rag may not immediately and repeatedly use the "Attacking logan cqc and when things get too rough hit him away strike him with lighting and press the attack again" but I do believe it is a tactic within his ability and mind set to use to win some fights against logan.
You do bring up some good points but i still believe Ragnorak will come out on top in a confrontation even if barely and not even 100% of the time.
No worries my friend. It took me a while to get the hang of it. I went years on here with out knowing how to quote lol.
fair enough