Originally posted by Stoic
What does it matter, the Hulk could still hit J'onn without even taking a swing at him. He can project energy in omni blast fashion as we saw during the entire HOTM story line, and at the end of WW Hulk.
Originally posted by Juntai
You came in here backing up Stoic's claim that he could tag speedsters because it's proven he beats up characters moving ftl in combat, right?Isn't that why you posted the Sentry scans, because we were talking about Sentry, because of Stoic's claim?
I think Hulk can hit speedster but if Flash was to combat at light speed, Hulk along with Martian Manhunter would be statues. I wouldn't be surprised if Hulk grabbed him based off his showing of hitting speedsters.
He could easily post the scan of Gladiator grabbing a weakened Hulk and almost made it out of orbit instantly with Hulk (he was trying to suffocate hulk) and Hulk thunder clapped him before he made it out of the atmosphere. Light speed showing based on the speed Glads was moving and Hulk reacting before Gladiator completed his goal.
Originally posted by carver9I wouldn't use you as a reliable source for much of anything concerning comics. I was merely pointing out how foolish it was to jump into the debate headlong backing up Stoic's wild claims, so I helped you separate your argument from the field.
Yes, but I'm the wrong one to ask since I don't think anyone outside of Flash and Zoom can combat at light speed.😛
Originally posted by Juntai
I wouldn't use you as a reliable source for much of anything concerning comics. I was merely pointing out how foolish it was to jump into the debate headlong backing up Stoic's wild claims, so I helped you separate your argument from the field.
My post wasn't directed at you, it was directed at Batman Prime. So I guess you have some fts of MM combating at light speed.?
Originally posted by PhilosophíaI don't think comics ignore abilities as flatly as you state. I haven't seen J'onn attack a superstrong brick he couldn't afford to get hit in the manner you're speaking of. Like I've never seen Thor summoning a lightning fortified whirlwind forcefield around him and bidding Mjolnir to speedblitz an opponent repeatedly at 1000x lightspeed while he sits inside when he knows he's utterly outclassed physically. My not believing that Thor would do this or can do this does not require me to think he's being retarded and ignoring his abilities (or Mjolnir's). I've just never seen him do it and would be open to someone showing me otherwise.
Fights in the forum aren't the same as the fights in the comics, where abilities are ignored in order to save face for the opponents. J'onn has displayed high-end superspeed, on-panel, within the comic books. It takes a minimum amount of intelligence to think "I can't take many of his punches, and I can move fast enough to make him look like a statue". Unless you think that J'onn is retarded, there is absolutely no reason he'd let Hulk lay a hand on him after assessing his strength.
So setting aside the false absolutes, do you have a particular fight in mind of J'onn's?
Stoic, if you think that this shows FTL speed, then honestly I don't know what to say
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3852/hulk9006.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
Lol at Sentry only going fist cuff with WWH. Look at all that orange fist.http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh009.jpg
Let's look at some more orange fist.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh015.jpg
Some more.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh016.jpg
Some more.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh017.jpg
Orange fist is everywhere.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh020.jpg
Wow, just wow.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg
The crazy thing about it is, its Superman fans that are in here trying to down play Hulk when they don't even know what they are talking about. Orange fist for the win.
That Sentry wasn't operating anywhere near his max power levels though.
Not if he's strong enough to disperse Molecule Man, or tank hits from Thor (Up until the helicarrier anyways..)
Originally posted by Stoic
What? Are you trying to clown me? Make a point or keep it moving.1. It has been determined that WB Hulk has and can keep pace with speeders capable of moving faster than the speed of light. He did it on panel
Originally posted by Juntai
Were they using it?No, then. OK.
I can hit someone faster than light if they slow down for me, to a complete standstill, and trade punches on even terms...
Which suggests what you're implying here, is that Hulk can fight at FTL. Otherwise you were just typing to be typing something, and meant nothing at all.
Originally posted by Juntai
If they weren't using it, it doesn't matter. I can hit a lightspeeder if he wants to stand still for me and trade blows.
It never said what speed the Sentry flew into the Hulk's fist at, so he may have been moving at those speeds. Carver also mentioned the Gladiator snatch, and grab feat that the Hulk reacted to.
The Hulk as I mentioned earlier does not have to physically touch J'onn either to hit him, as he can project massive amounts of energy in the form of an omni blast. Will this continue to be ignored?
Originally posted by carver9It doesn't matter. Stoic was the one that brought it up. Dismantling a part of someone's argument doesn't mean I have to explain or show something completely unrelated to it.
My post wasn't directed at you, it was directed at Batman Prime. So I guess you have some fts of MM combating at light speed.?
Originally posted by carver9
My post wasn't directed at you, it was directed at Batman Prime. So I guess you have some fts of MM combating at light speed.?
Pretty sure MM can't do lightspeed. Ostrander had J'onn claim in his mini that he's not as fast as Superman, but still fast enough to outrun an explosion that was set off with him in the room, so he's still uber fast..
