aquaman vs spiderman

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's harder to move your muscles underwater, because of the pressure being exerted on you from the ocean around you. Ever feel the resistance when you run your hand across a pool of water? Imagine that times a thousand, and then apply it to Aquaman having to lift large objects while fighting hundreds of tons of pressure trying to stop him.

I don't think that's ever really factored into comics. Especially with characters like Aquaman, who are more at home in water than out it.

That's said I think he is stronger.

Originally posted by The Pict
I don't think that's ever really factored into comics. Especially with characters like Aquaman, who are more at home in water than out it.

That's said I think he is stronger.

I might agree with you if it hadn't been mentioned in several comics. 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's harder to move your muscles underwater, because of the pressure being exerted on you from the ocean around you. Ever feel the resistance when you run your hand across a pool of water? Imagine that times a thousand, and then apply it to Aquaman having to lift large objects while fighting hundreds of tons of pressure trying to stop him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I might agree with you if it hadn't been mentioned in several comics. 😛

Foiled by on panel evidence 🙁

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_weight_of_an_object_change_when_underwater

Your link didn't work for me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's harder to move your muscles underwater, because of the pressure being exerted on you from the ocean around you. Ever feel the resistance when you run your hand across a pool of water? Imagine that times a thousand, and then apply it to Aquaman having to lift large objects while fighting hundreds of tons of pressure trying to stop him.

but that again doesnt mean Aquaman is the strongest its his ability to adapt to those pressures and being in his natural enviroment.

Spiderman would be restricted by his need to breath and having air in his lungs his body not acclimated to swimming and lifting.

but put them both in a place where they can plant their feet and see who has the most lifting feats.. it sure isnt Aquaman imo.

I could make a similar argument with spiderman holding several tons upside down on a wall or ceiling and saying he is stronger b/c I dont see Aquaman doing it.

Spiderman is not only lifting the weight but fighting against earths gravity.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
I will admit u wont see spiderman swimming underwater lifting several tons but only b/c that is not his power set and it would be awkward for him to swim and lift but its not b/c he is weaker than aquaman.

but that again doesnt mean Aquaman is the strongest its his ability to adapt to those pressures and being in his natural enviroment.

Spiderman would be restricted by his need to breath and having air in his lungs his body not acclimated to swimming and lifting.

but put them both in a place where they can plant their feet and see who has the most lifting feats.. it sure isnt Aquaman imo.

I could make a similar argument with spiderman holding several tons upside down on a wall or ceiling and saying he is stronger b/c I dont see Aquaman doing it.

Spiderman is not only lifting the weight but fighting against earths gravity.

Aquaman regularly fights against more gravity than Spider-Man, though. And for me, in an equal setting, he's goint to be able to lift more.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Your link didn't work for me.

Answer: Improve
Yes, the weight of an object changes when it is underwater.
Although its mass does not change under water, its weight does change because of buoyancy. Objects weigh less under water, even ones that sink.

Consider how you feel when you're in a pool up to your neck. You feel almost weightless. That's because water is "pushing up" on you with a force equal to the force gravity pulls down on the mass of water your body displaces when in the water. The "pushing up" is the force of the water acting on you, and we call that buoyancy. Notice that your mass did not change at all through this. Your mass is the same as it was before you went into the water.

Yet I would agree that overall Aquaman is stronger but this fight isn't stomp unless he is allowed to mindrape.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Yet I would agree that overall Aquaman is stronger but this fight isn't stomp unless he is allowed to mindrape.

That's talking about things on the surface though; it's not taking in to account something at the bottom of the ocean. Yes, an object might be lighter to an extent, but the actual pressures of the ocean itself would crush most beings without the requisite durability, and would make movement very difficult for anything lacking the needed strength.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's talking about things on the surface though; it's not taking in to account something at the bottom of the ocean. Yes, an object might be lighter to an extent, but the actual pressures of the ocean itself would crush most beings without the requisite durability, and would make movement very difficult for anything lacking the needed strength.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's talking about things on the surface though; it's not taking in to account something at the bottom of the ocean. Yes, an object might be lighter to an extent, but the actual pressures of the ocean itself would crush most beings without the requisite durability, and would make movement very difficult for anything lacking the needed strength.

Is Aquaman like namor in that he can lift more under water, or is he just the same all around?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You should read that again.

Did you edit?

Originally posted by jalek moye
Is Aquaman like namor in that he can lift more under water, or is he just the same all around?

water makes him more powerful, yes. it's like hitting superman with sunlight, just not to the same extent.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Yet I would agree that overall Aquaman is stronger but this fight isn't stomp unless he is allowed to mindrape.

@PR

the weight gravity is irrelevant that was my whole point. Aquaman is adapted to those pressures. any human would be as well if given time to acclimate. it doesnt mean he is stronger.

u know we pull fishes from the deepest oceans regularly and they arent super strong or durable b/c of the pressure they live in.

this is the misconception when it comes to aquaman that kinda irks me b/c there is no evidence for the argument being made.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Did you edit?

Originally posted by Nietzschean
nice quote on the buoyancy which is what I am trying to get at.

@PR

the weight gravity is irrelevant that was my whole point. Aquaman is adapted to those pressures. any human would be as well if given time to acclimate. it doesnt mean he is stronger.

u know we pull fishes from the deepest oceans regularly and they arent super strong or durable b/c of the pressure they live in.

this is the misconception when it comes to aquaman that kinda irks me b/c there is no evidence for the argument being made.

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It's not a misconception, because it's been outright stated that Aquaman is tougher because of the pressures of the ocean. He has several atmospheres of pressure on his body at the deepest parts, and to exert that much strength underwater requires that he be very, very strong.

And you can't compare those fish to Aquaman; it's not the same principle.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Just bolded out the important parts, not the content you can copy paste it into google.

Yes, I saw that part. And?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, I saw that part. And?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You said it only applies for objects on the surface, it doesn't. Have you never lifted a weight under water? It's lighter, Astronauts train under water because they're lighter too to simulate lower gravity in space/on the moon. Things under water are not heavier than on land.

I'm not talking about the object's weight. I'm talking about Aquaman's ability to move and lift things at the bottom of the ocean where the pressure is so extreme it would turn submarines in to smears.

AM lifting something under water is like Superman lifting something in the sun.

Yes, it would be heavier than on the surface of the Earth, but the increase of power they receive negates the impressiveness.

Originally posted by -Pr-
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Yes, I saw that part. And?

I will concede with u that Aquaman can lift more underwater only b/c of his ability to swim and being acclimated to the environment.

but, I dont agree that Aquaman is stronger on even footing surface world if we go by feats.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
I am sorry but i disagree with u on this.
drag resistance has nothing to due with strength in my opinion in this matter.

I will concede with u that Aquaman can lift more underwater only b/c of his ability to swim and being acclimated to the environment.

but, I dont agree that Aquaman is stronger on even footing surface world if we go by feats.

i'm not talking about drag resistance; i'm talking about atmospheric pressure. Aquaman, unlike a lot of that sea-life, has his own internal pressure, and said pressure has to negate the crushing depths of the ocean. that makes him super strong and super durable, and means that when he's on land, where the gravity isn't so intense, he's able to lift a whole lot more.