King Thor (Reigning) vs. Kal Kent (Superman 853rd Century)

Originally posted by realio
the difference is that thor wasnt depowered same way as superman 1 million was, king thor lost the odin force but still had his physical states, however superman 1 million got all depowered to the point he couldnt even fly and stated he is becomming a mortal and even at that state he owned everybody he faced

king thor while having all his powers got toe 2 toe with iron man, and got cut and hurt by freakin wolverineand all that without being depowered

are you retarded? i already explained that king thor only lost his odin force while superman 1 million was losing all his stats from flight to physical strength

superman 1 million while depowered was sniffing firestorm, defeated a creture combined of all metal man, punch the time 853 centeries into the future, held back a charging galaxy.... and he was by far more depowered than king thor

king thor while depowered did what? kill thing and hulk?????????????

superman 1 million while depowered much greatly than king thor is still >>>>>>>>>>>> than full power king thor

King Thor oneblasted Wolverine to death. His power was then severed then he beat the life from the Hulk and the Thing. Both were depowered and Thor's showings are more impressive than Kent's while depowered along with while at full power.

Kal needs a super sun. King Thor doesn't need any external power source.

Firestorm isn't impressive classic Thor destroys this. The metal men weren't impressive at all. Feel free to show or explain your case for them being uber though.

Kal needed Hourman's aid in doing so I just posted the scan.

Beheading the destroyer means Kal loses his head.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Never understood that. Exactly what kind of "help" did they give him other than moral support?

...None that I saw.

What help was that? You have to remember,besides brute force, Kal's IQ is insanely beyond and is capable of calculating at least a billion scenarios simultaneously. Also to add, if he was facing King Thor from a great distance, he can attack him using his godly TK. We are talking about how he can move a galaxy without touching it. That is some crazy level of feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did so through help.

Thor's only hope would be some high end magic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I knew we'd disagree on this.

Just saying.

Originally posted by lilshogun
What help was that? You have to remember,besides brute force, Kal's IQ is insanely beyond and is capable of calculating at least a billion scenarios simultaneously. Also to add, if he was facing King Thor from a great distance, he can attack him using his godly TK. We are talking about how he can move a galaxy without touching it. That is some crazy level of feat.

These two will engage each other physically like Kal did with the Metal Men. Who do you think prevails ?

Originally posted by Galan007
Well, it seems like you're assuming that Hourman (despite being nearly powerless at the time) gave S1M some sort of 'power boost' which helped him punch through time... Even though we never saw him do anything of the sort. No reason that ambiguous statement cannot be taken in the context I mentioned earlier (ie. "help"=moral/verbal support)--especially when there's no illustrative backing which depicts HM giving Supes extra power.

Just saying.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see it as some sort of power boost but either way the dialogue to me anyway makes it clear on his own he couldn't have done so. You can see it however you want to but punching through time is impressive doesn't really translate into a combat feat per say any more or less than King Thor returning fallen structures or a girl's life with the Odin-force.

So we are removing Kal's galaxy level TK within this fight? ok, I just want to know how will King Thor be able to contend with Superman's tachyon speed feat that applies to his agility and refexes along with his PC Superman level strength? This guy just made one leap and landed on the moon and created an earthquake. Not to mention, he can process several billion scenarios mathematically to engage against a target. This is a guy that is equivalent or greater than Braniac 5.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If we just rely on feats then one could say King Thor resists it and just sucks out his soul. You can take any of Thor's feats at even classic levels and say this is what he does to Kal. The battle starts off normal fighting distance so this whole business of trying to change the standard starting distance fails.

These two will engage each other physically like Kal did with the Metal Men. Who do you think prevails ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kal was depowere as was Thor. The Odinforce is a LOT more powerful than classic Thor. Both were depowered and I have showings of cannon fodder almost beating him.

King Thor oneblasted Wolverine to death. His power was then severed then he beat the life from the Hulk and the Thing. Both were depowered and Thor's showings are more impressive than Kent's while depowered along with while at full power.

Kal needs a super sun. King Thor doesn't need any external power source.

Firestorm isn't impressive classic Thor destroys this. The metal men weren't impressive at all. Feel free to show or explain your case for them being uber though.

Kal needed Hourman's aid in doing so I just posted the scan.

Beheading the destroyer means Kal loses his head.

Originally posted by lilshogun
So we are removing Kal's galaxy level TK within this fight? ok, I just want to know how will King Thor be able to contend with Superman's tachyon speed feat that applies to his agility and refexes along with his PC Superman level strength? This guy just made one leap and landed on the moon and created an earthquake. Not to mention, he can process several billion scenarios mathematically to engage against a target. This is a guy that is equivalent or greater than Braniac 5.

Show me some examples because what I remember from him he gets attacked left and right throughout the 1 million arc. Intelligence doesn't mean greater combatant. Thor lives for combat. Leaping to the moon and creating an earthquake isn't going to do anything to King Thor. The guy tanked incinerator blasts like a champ.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not trying to argue how said feat would apply vs. KT. Just saying that the "help" Hourman gave S1M really couldn't have been much more than verbal support. Recall that Hourman was infected with a computer virus given to him by Solaris--he was all but powerless at the time (which is why S1M had to punch through time in the first place, instead of having HM simply transport them into the future.)

Originally posted by Badabing
You scared off the troll Quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
it could be some inspirational support which allowed him to dig deep to pull this off.

Originally posted by Galan007
This is all it really could have been. Hourman literally had nothing else to offer.

Quan, even if Hourman gave him a boost for that final push, he was still making micro changes to history under his own power.

In and of itself, that's impressive, but even more so because he was on his last legs. This is a feat beyond a full powered pre reboot Superman, and he wasn't anywhere near full power.

Originally posted by cdtm
Quan, even if Hourman gave him a boost for that final push, he was still making micro changes to history under his own power.

In and of itself, that's impressive, but even more so because he was on his last legs. This is a feat beyond a full powered pre reboot Superman, and he wasn't anywhere near full power.

Intillegince do play a role. As for leaping to the moon. I am am just illustrating how insanely fast he is. King Thor has not shown to ever fought a being with this type of speed and and power. As for KAL having help, He seems to be fine doing it himself.

In what ways that King Thor's power is greater than Kal? Are we looking at energy, strength, speed, intelligence? What aspects of Thor's ability suggest that he is superior than Kal? The only thing I can think of is tapping into the mystical powers within Asgard making him godly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, we aren't removing any of his powers I am just saying the distance thing won't be available right out of the gate.

Show me some examples because what I remember from him he gets attacked left and right throughout the 1 million arc. Intelligence doesn't mean greater combatant. Thor lives for combat. Leaping to the moon and creating an earthquake isn't going to do anything to King Thor. The guy tanked incinerator blasts like a champ.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit without aid the feat isn't completely possible by just him alone. The feat while impressive doesn't have anything to do with a combat related feat.

I'm admitting that, yes, it may have been impossible without aid, but that it's still impressive despite that aid.

Instead of making it all the way to his century, he makes it most of the way there and causes Superboy Prime like changes to history, while at the end of his power supply. Any way you slice it, that's a good feat.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm admitting that, yes, it may have been impossible without aid, but that it's still impressive despite that aid.

Instead of making it all the way to his century, he makes it most of the way there and causes Superboy Prime like changes to history, while at the end of his power supply. Any way you slice it, that's a good feat.