King Thor (Reigning) vs. Kal Kent (Superman 853rd Century)

Started by quanchi11210 pages

Originally posted by lilshogun
Intillegince do play a role. As for leaping to the moon. I am am just illustrating how insanely fast he is. King Thor has not shown to ever fought a being with this type of speed and and power. As for KAL having help, He seems to be fine doing it himself.

In what ways that King Thor's power is greater than Kal? Are we looking at energy, strength, speed, intelligence? What aspects of Thor's ability suggest that he is superior than Kal? The only thing I can think of is tapping into the mystical powers within Asgard making him godly.

So what if he leaps to the moon ? Can you leap and maneuver around mid air to combat an opponent ? Kent needed help in achieving the feat he is only as fast as a tachyon or whatever in the 853rd century near his super sun.

^^^In the 853rd century. No super sun here so forget all the fluff.

King Thor is more durable, greater energy output, and greater raw power in general.

Let's see Kal Kent in combat. Let's see how fast he is.

Look at this car just clip him. You can talk about speed all you want this isn't the 853rd century and there's no super sun.

Without a super sun, he claimed he could maintain full power for about... 48 hours, I believe. As he was flying to the edge of the galaxy, beyond the range of the super sun.

So he should be good for this fight.

Originally posted by cdtm
Without a super sun, he claimed he could maintain full power for about... 48 hours, I believe. As he was flying to the edge of the galaxy, beyond the range of the super sun.

So he should be good for this fight.

Post the scan. Do you think exerting yourself in combat would drain power from him since he's like a solar battery. Who wins ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the scan. Do you think exerting yourself in combat would drain power from him since he's like a solar battery. Who wins ?

So 36 hours.

And yes, exerting himself should bleed off his powers faster. Since we're talking about nearly two days of power, I doubt it'll happen in less than half a day though... Even four hours at full power is enough to make it a fight.

Anyways, I'm backing Thor for the win.

S1M's good, but not that good.

Originally posted by cdtm

So 36 hours.

And yes, exerting himself should bleed off his powers faster. Since we're talking about nearly two days of power, I doubt it'll happen in less than half a day though... Even four hours at full power is enough to make it a fight. [/B]

I take this as him saying his powers won't fade completely and he's slingshotting himself to conserve energy imo.

Why's there no super-sun in this fight?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why's there no super-sun in this fight?
Because I am the thread starter. If it's on a neutral setting there is no super sun now is there ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because I am the thread starter. If it's on a neutral setting there is no super sun now is there ?

Is there a yellow sun when Superman fights?

It's your thread, but imo there's not much point in making a slugfest where both character aren't at their best. (Or at least, where one would be effectively crippled, since I also see nothing wrong with Odin or Lord Morpheus fighting outside of their realm..)

A fight with a blue lantern, for example, should probably include a gl someplace away from the fight but still in the general area, just to give them their power supply...

And we both know Lord Thor wins regardless. 😉

Originally posted by cdtm
Is there a yellow sun when Superman fights?

It's your thread, but imo there's not much point in making a slugfest where both character aren't at their best. (Or at least, where one would be effectively crippled, since I also see nothing wrong with Odin or Lord Morpheus fighting outside of their realm..)

A fight with a blue lantern, for example, should probably include a gl someplace away from the fight but still in the general area, just to give them their power supply...

And we both know Lord Thor wins regardless. 😉

For the most part no but it depends where they are fighting. The difference is quite simple. Superman isn't as dependent on a sun and his powers fading anywhere near to the degree Superman one million is on the super sun. Superman one million retains his powers he just doesn't have the luxury of having a super sun right near him.

Mephisto fights outside his realm all the time so don't act like every time he isn't in his realm posters are crying in their cheerios.

If King Thor wins regardless why even complain. You don't even see it making a difference in the outcome.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because I am the thread starter. If it's on a neutral setting there is no super sun now is there ?

So you want to have king thor face against a weakened kal kent. That's certainly fair.🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
For the most part no but it depends where they are fighting. The difference is quite simple. Superman isn't as dependent on a sun and his powers fading anywhere near to the degree Superman one million is on the super sun. Superman one million retains his powers he just doesn't have the luxury of having a super sun right near him.

Mephisto fights outside his realm all the time so don't act like every time he isn't in his realm posters are crying in their cheerios.

If King Thor wins regardless why even complain. You don't even see it making a difference in the outcome.

You don't think Superman loses his powers quickly when he exerts himself without a yellow sun to replenish him?

Blackest Night stands as one example of Superman without a sun, and I own an early post crisis issue where a woman using various robots and power armor tried draining him off in an endless battle in the middle of the night, and had some success (He was weakened, but still had enough juice to fire off his heat vision, at a reduced power.)

James Robinson having Superman face Atlas also seemed dependent on the sun, as clouds were overhead and Atlas's magic was making him burn through his stores much faster than normal.. So he went to Zatara for a spell that kept him fully charged just long enough to win the fight.

Anywho, King Thor wins, for reasons already stated.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Anywho, King Thor wins, for reasons already stated.
quan excellently presented his case

King Thor Dies.
Even quan thinks Superman 1 million under normal circumstances is more powerful than King Thor, this is why he placed this unique stip.

IF King Thor fights Superman 1 million as soon as he arrives to this battle, King Thor won't be able to do enough to drain him before Superman 1 million kills him.
How is King Thor going to stand up to a telepath who is stronger, more durable and can perform billions of calculations in nano seconds? King Thor won't even have time to react.

Think about that, a telepath who can perform billions of calculations in a nanosecond - that spells mind rape of epic propotions.

Quan you have to add more stips for this to be competitive. Like Superman 1 MIllion away from the super sun for x # of of hours or after X number of punches to break the time barrier or something like that.

Originally posted by cdtm
You don't think Superman loses his powers quickly when he exerts himself without a yellow sun to replenish him?

Blackest Night stands as one example of Superman without a sun

I meant Final Night.

I am going to be honest here because no one is responding to this guy but he is making great points. We all picked one or the other but this guy brought feats and rebuttals to quan's purposely distorted posts. I don't know who he is or who he pissed off but he seems knowledgeable and so far has been civil so at least keep these posts if he gets banned. He obviously put a lot of effort in them.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you want to have king thor face against a weakened kal kent. That's certainly fair.🙄
Do you think Kal Kent wins if there's a super sun in the thread ?
Originally posted by cdtm
You don't think Superman loses his powers quickly when he exerts himself without a yellow sun to replenish him?

Blackest Night stands as one example of Superman without a sun, and I own an early post crisis issue where a woman using various robots and power armor tried draining him off in an endless battle in the middle of the night, and had some success (He was weakened, but still had enough juice to fire off his heat vision, at a reduced power.)

James Robinson having Superman face Atlas also seemed dependent on the sun, as clouds were overhead and Atlas's magic was making him burn through his stores much faster than normal.. So he went to Zatara for a spell that kept him fully charged just long enough to win the fight.

Superman doesn't lose his powers as quickly as Superman one million does. I am sure you can find some showings which make it an emphasis but still nowhere near to the degree Kal Kent depended on the super sun.

Originally posted by Diesldude
King Thor Dies.
Even quan thinks Superman 1 million under normal circumstances is more powerful than King Thor, this is why he placed this unique stip.

IF King Thor fights Superman 1 million as soon as he arrives to this battle, King Thor won't be able to do enough to drain him before Superman 1 million kills him.
How is King Thor going to stand up to a telepath who is stronger, more durable and can perform billions of calculations in nano seconds? King Thor won't even have time to react.

Think about that, a telepath who can perform billions of calculations in a nanosecond - that spells mind rape of epic propotions.

Quan you have to add more stips for this to be competitive. Like Superman 1 MIllion away from the super sun for x # of of hours or after X number of punches to break the time barrier or something like that.

When did I say that ? When did anyone say that ? Most on here still favor King Thor and I for one think King Thor is more powerful and would win either way as do others who tend to gravitate towards Superman one million.

Back this up with on panel feats. Saying he destroys him in a nanosecond without proof isn't debating. Also you need to show him destroying someone of King Thor's magnitude. Good luck.

Feel free to back up your opinion with scans; you know evidence.

Ok with supersun Kal wins, without probably Thor.