Originally posted by quanchi112
I was comparing depowered showings to depowered showings. Thor wins that hands down as he does win the more impressive showings while both are at full power. Even you have to agree. Two negatives equal a positive. It's just basic math. 😉
there is a huge difference between superman 1 million being depowered and king thor losing his odin force, superman 1 million was getting depowered in his overall states which means he was losing everything from flight to strength, at that point he was like superman effected by kryptonite he stated he is becoming mortal and even couldnt use his flight or any other power, even at that state superman 1 million was able to sniff away a mid - high herald which is firestorm, defeat all the metal men combined, defeat an army of those robots that were designed to fight superman, broke the time barrier and punched 853 centeries into the future fighting time with his fists, held back an entire charging galaxy
king thor while only losing the odin force still had his physical states with his and yet he got destroyed by hulk and thing, i dont care if he killed them by the end because if you get your eye and arm ripped out you got destroyed, while having the odin forcehe still got trouble fighting iron man and he got cut and hurt by wolverine, he get owned twice by desak and his only real feat was beheading desak in the destroyer armor but it wasnt his own feat it was mjolnir feat, it was basically a feat to show the return of mjolnir and how powerful mjolnir is , therefor his only real feat is a PIS feat for mjolnir
basically this conclude us with the fact superman 1 million while greatly depowered is >>>>>>>>> full power king thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kal was depowere as was Thor. The Odinforce is a LOT more powerful than classic Thor. Both were depowered and I have showings of cannon fodder almost beating him.King Thor oneblasted Wolverine to death. His power was then severed then he beat the life from the Hulk and the Thing. Both were depowered and Thor's showings are more impressive than Kent's while depowered along with while at full power.
Kal needs a super sun. King Thor doesn't need any external power source.
Firestorm isn't impressive classic Thor destroys this. The metal men weren't impressive at all. Feel free to show or explain your case for them being uber though.
Kal needed Hourman's aid in doing so I just posted the scan.
Beheading the destroyer means Kal loses his head.
you are lying like a b!tch, as i explained earlier kal kent was by far more depowered than king thor and was becoming mortal while king thor still had all his physical states and this canon fodder robots didnt almost defeat him he actually owned them all hords of robots, king thor got his eye and arm ripped out by thing and a nobody version of the hulk
when he blasted wolverine he still had the odin forceand it proves nothing at all seing how he was only able to burn his flesh and skin and melt 1 - 2 of his claws he didnt just melt his own skeleton it was 2 claws at best , and why is it suppose to impress me? superman 1 million was floating in supernova athmosphere while holding a war lord in a force field, note that he needed his force field only to protect the warlord from the supernova and galactic explotions he humself was just floating there unharmed.
kal needs the super sun and king thor needs the odi force so whats your point? as we saw the odin force can be taken away from him and i am preety sure if kal kent will just teleport the both of them into the fifth dimension he can do what ever he wants to king thor in the fifth dimension he will just strip him off his powers
i dont care what you find impressive or not, fact is a depowered superman 1 million just sniffed a mid - high herald like a fly, while king thor while only losing the odin force got his arm ripped out by freakin thing and nobody version of hulk, while full power he went toe 2 toe with iron man thats pathetic
king thor wont be able to behead superman 1 million, first of all superman 1 million is too fast for him, kal kent is faster than a tachyon, he was at several places at the same time and still manage to defuce a nanosecond bomb, kal kent is faster than all star superman , now show me king thor speed feats, you cant? that means he is only thor level fast vs someone who is faster than all star superman, that means kal kent will fly right to him grab his hammer and shove it up his ass before he can even react
kal kent is a telepath at high levels he can mind rape king thor or at least read up on his mind and know exactly what he is about to do and can do, superman 1 million is going to destroy king thor and tear him apart with his force vision, can you prove king thor is more resistant than a charging galaxy? if not that he will destroy him
can you prove king thor is more durable than a giant star? because superman 1 million can destroy one of those with only his breath
king thor cant even effect 1 million because kal kent is imune to magic therefor the odin force will do no good here unless you would like to prove otherwise
king thor is getting raped
Originally posted by quanchi112
If we just rely on feats then one could say King Thor resists it and just sucks out his soul. You can take any of Thor's feats at even classic levels and say this is what he does to Kal. The battle starts off normal fighting distance so this whole business of trying to change the standard starting distance fails.These two will engage each other physically like Kal did with the Metal Men. Who do you think prevails ?
king thor wont be able to do anything to kal kent due to couple reasons, first of all as i stated 1 million is by farrr faster than thor its not even a question, 1 million is a telepath he will read up on what king thor is about to do and just beat him to it, it takes time for thor to soul suck and we are talking about him fighting someone who is even faster than all star superman so Lol AT YOU
then we got the fact 1 million is uneffected by those kind of things, he is basically invulnerable like was stated he doesnt have weakness, a joker ghost was trying to posses him and it couldnt posses him because of his 5 IMP protection, even when apoch was trying to trap him in a time loop he still got out of that , soul such will not work on his because once again he got 5 IMP protection and because he is imune to magic and guess what? its magic.... therefor there is no chance on earth that a slow and magic attack like this will work on him
Originally posted by quanchi112
I see it as some sort of power boost but either way the dialogue to me anyway makes it clear on his own he couldn't have done so. You can see it however you want to but punching through time is impressive doesn't really translate into a combat feat per say any more or less than King Thor returning fallen structures or a girl's life with the Odin-force.
Lol you idiot you cant even understand feats, let me explain what happened there so you stop being butthurt, hourman didnt help him punch the time itself he only created a form to time so 1 million can punch it, its like SBP punching the reality in a shape of a wall ... did anyone discredit him for breaking reality just because it was in a shape of a wall? so superman 1 million did it in a shape of a portal because if they showed him just punch the air and break time that means the whole dimension should have been destroyed until it reached the time stream itself, therefor superman 1 million did this feat all by himself with no help and even as wonder women stated herself no one can do that with their bare fists but superman 1 million could i guess
Originally posted by quanchi112
So what if he leaps to the moon ? Can you leap and maneuver around mid air to combat an opponent ? Kent needed help in achieving the feat he is only as fast as a tachyon or whatever in the 853rd century near his super sun.^^^[B]In the 853rd century
. No super sun here so forget all the fluff.King Thor is more durable, greater energy output, and greater raw power in general.
Let's see Kal Kent in combat. Let's see how fast he is.
Look at this car just clip him. You can talk about speed all you want this isn't the 853rd century and there's no super sun.
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wow you are pathetic seriously, he is ONLY as fast as a tachyon? do you realise a tachyon is faster than the speed of light??? so you are saying faster than the speed of light is no match for thor? and where are king thor speed feats? provide tham
oh so now you are b!tching it out and making it superman 1 million depowered without the super sun vs king thor? ok he is still more powerful based on the feats i have stated earlier, unless you want to provide me feats of king thor that are greater than defeating solaris, sniffing a high herald like a bug, breaking the time barrier and punching 853 centeries into the future, and of course holding back a charging galaxy which means he powers are messured with freaking galaxies, show me king thor being at those levels
prove king thor is more durable than superman 1 million
king thor greater energy output? superman 1 million while depowered can destroy a giant red star, show me king thor at the very least matching destroying a giant star
power in general? superman 1 million was holding a charging galaxy show me king thor comming even close to that overall power
that car scan is pathetic quan, that wasnt a car that was one of the metal man transformed into a car form however its a metal man who is a low level herald and it was a depowered superman 1 million attacked by surprise , why wont you show the rest of the fight? because as the fight continues there are 5 metal men who are getting their ass kicked by 1 million, then they all combine themself into a huge creture made out of 5 metal man and 1 million beats the living hell out of them without even getting touched
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the scan. Do you think exerting yourself in combat would drain power from him since he's like a solar battery. Who wins ?
it doesnt matter because it will take him less than a second to behead king thor and rip out his second arm, unless you want to provide me proof that king thor is at least as fast at a tachyon which is faster than light
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why's there no super-sun in this fight?
because quan is afraid his king thor will get his other arm ripped out, however it wont help since i provided a case as to why even a depowered superman 1 million will destroy king thor and he will even be at full power because it will only take him mere seconds to do it so no depowering for him
you are right it doesnt make difference to the outcome because full power or depowered superman 1 million will destroy king thor based on thepoint i provided a page earlier, depowered superman 1 million still can destroy a giant star with only his breath, he will basically own king thor with his breath alone unless you want to show me him being more durable than a giant star? if you are trying to imply king thor can take this kind of punishment than wolverine bags to differ
Lol superman 1 million will just restrain king thor with the force jacket for the laughs
now after i adressed all the point quan had, i left him with points of my own and i actually proved quan was trolling and bringing all kind of scans without using the context and trying to mislead other people now i am talking to all the people who posted in this thread
are you out of your modafackin mind? what did king thor ever do for you to think he can take on superman 1 million? the guy got a serious fight from the freakin iron man this is a big huge Lol
the guy got cut and hurt by wolverine while still having the odin force , when lost only the odin force he got destroyed and crippled by hulk and thing, when having the odin force again he got owned by desak twice , at the end of the arc he behead desak in the destroyer armor via mjolnir and thats not a feat for king thor but for mjolnir, IMO that was a PIS feat for mjolnir to present its return it was basically meant to show us how mighty mjolnir is after it gone for so long .... so what did king thor EVER did aside of getting his ass kicked by everybody during his entire run?
superman 1 million is on a whole other level, first of all his entire arc and stories were with him being depowered because at full power he is godlike, while depowered he sniffed a herald level being like a fly, he was able to destroy a giant star with only his breath, he defeated all the metal men combined, he broke the time barrier and punched time 853 centeries into the future and altered events while being so depowered he couldnt even fly and stated he is becomming mortal, he held back an entire charging galaxy for f^ck sake, if king thor ever did anything like that people would compare him to galactus already.
superman 1 million is faster than the speed of light, he got so many powers its unbelievebale, he is a telepath he got telekinesis , he got a breath that can destroy stars, he got a force vision that defeated solaris who was at that time DC version of galactus, he held an entire charging galaxy with only his force vision, he got extra 5 IMP powers that allow him to resist magic and resist anything we saw trying to hurt him basically, and all that in your opinion is nothing to a thor that got his ass kicked during his entire run? people GTFO
QUAN provide me evidence that king thor can even react to someone who is faster than the speed of light
provide me evidence of king thor being more durable than a giant star unless you do that i can easily say 1 million will destroy king thor with only his breath
provide me evidence of him resisting telepathy because if you dont i can easily say kal kent mind raped him
provide me scans of his resisting teleporting because unless you do it i can easily say kal kent teleports them right away to the fifth dimension and strip king thor off the odin force, or he can just teleport them back under the super sun, not that he needs that if he can finish the fight in less than a second
show me king thor being overall more powerful than a charging galaxy or show me him dishing more destructive power that a charging galaxy, because if superman 1 million was able to contain a charging galaxy with his force vision there is no way in hell king thor can overpower it and that means superman 1 million can just trap king thor inside a force vision and squash him
Originally posted by cdtm
You don't think Superman loses his powers quickly when he exerts himself without a yellow sun to replenish him?Blackest Night stands as one example of Superman without a sun, and I own an early post crisis issue where a woman using various robots and power armor tried draining him off in an endless battle in the middle of the night, and had some success (He was weakened, but still had enough juice to fire off his heat vision, at a reduced power.)
James Robinson having Superman face Atlas also seemed dependent on the sun, as clouds were overhead and Atlas's magic was making him burn through his stores much faster than normal.. So he went to Zatara for a spell that kept him fully charged just long enough to win the fight.
superman is no superman 1 million they work differently at that point, superman 1 million is losing his powers by being away from the super sun, unless people can prove that during battle superman 1 million exerts his super sun energy and losing it faster that point is mute, lets see now... when superman 1 million was losing his powers he fought firestorm, the entire metal man crew, hords of robots, the missle leading robots, he was using what left of his powers to mind rape the soldiers and to save someone with a force shield.... and during all those fights and events it was never stated he is losing his powers faster due to that, the only thing was stated is him losing his powers due to being away from the super sun, this all leads us to believe he doesnt exert his powers when fighting but only by the time he is away from the super sun
people here are so biased, people here are saying they go by feats and not by bios or biased opinion then where are king thor feats? where are they? i presented sniffing a herald, destroying giant star with breath, defeating the entire team of metal men, defeating solaris, holding back a charging galaxy, floating in supernova invironment, i presented superman 1 million being faster than all star superman and faster than a speeding tachyon, where are king thor feats?? where are they? what feats does he have on that scale?
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
quan excellently presented his case
quan did nothing aside of posting scans where superman 1 million is depowered and trying to twist those feats , he posted a scan of one of the robots punch 1 million but he left behind the context of 1 million being depowered to the point he was becomming mortal, he didnt post the later scans where superman 1 million destroy a hord of those robots
quan posted a scan of a "car" hitting 1 million but again he was hiding the context behind it which was the fact it was a metal man member transforming himself into a car form but it still was a metal man who is a low herald level, and once again quan didnt post what happend after which was superman 1 million owning their entire team and then all the metal man combined themselves into a huge composed creture and superman 1 million was saying thats it games are over and he basically owned that creture without even getting toouched once which is a great speed and fighting feat if we add he was depowered greatly he couldnt even fly
quan brought nothing for king thor aside of trying to low ball superman 1 million and twist feats and thats a very poor argument
i already brought up superman 1 million feats and abilities which conclude this as a stomp for superman 1 million and no one adressed my points
also kal kent can calculate billion scenarios withing a second which just shows us how fast his cerebral abilities are , this shows us how fast his telepathy and telekinetic abilities are since all those are cerebral abilities, if he can make his mind work that fast as calculating billion scenarios in a second imagine how fast he can activate all his mind abilities like telepathy telekinesis and overall analyzing
Originally posted by Gecko4lifeDon't you know how to respond to multiple quotes in one post ? Thanks for responding like 13 times in a row. Laughing at cha.
there is a huge difference between superman 1 million being depowered and king thor losing his odin force, superman 1 million was getting depowered in his overall states which means he was losing everything from flight to strength, at that point he was like superman effected by kryptonite he stated he is becoming mortal and even couldnt use his flight or any other power, even at that state superman 1 million was able to sniff away a mid - high herald which is firestorm, defeat all the metal men combined, defeat an army of those robots that were designed to fight superman, broke the time barrier and punched 853 centeries into the future fighting time with his fists, held back an entire charging galaxyking thor while only losing the odin force still had his physical states with his and yet he got destroyed by hulk and thing, i dont care if he killed them by the end because if you get your eye and arm ripped out you got destroyed, while having the odin forcehe still got trouble fighting iron man and he got cut and hurt by wolverine, he get owned twice by desak and his only real feat was beheading desak in the destroyer armor but it wasnt his own feat it was mjolnir feat, it was basically a feat to show the return of mjolnir and how powerful mjolnir is , therefor his only real feat is a PIS feat for mjolnir
basically this conclude us with the fact superman 1 million while greatly depowered is >>>>>>>>> full power king thor
Kal Kent was still using his powers he wasn't depowered completely just like King Thor lost his mega power in the Odinforce. Both had powers still but you want to create a false distinction and a double standard. Fine by me, kiddo.
King Thor didn't have his physical stats with the Odinforce he had them as his classic self. Big diff, sport.
Most of Kal's feats aren't even combat related. You want to ooooh and ahh over them but in combat the guy wasn't impressive. His foes weren't impressive. King Thor's foes were stated on panel to rival the Celestials and Galactus. Teehee.
The best if you want to dismiss his beheading of the Destroyer feat just because and you call everyone here biased. It's laughable. You have no case. You don't even know how to respond to a few posts at a time so it's no surprise I am dealing with someone of limited intelligence.
Put up or shut up, player.
Originally posted by Gecko4lifeKing Thor was back to his classic self both retained some power but nowhere near full power.
you are lying like a b!tch, as i explained earlier kal kent was by far more depowered than king thor and was becoming mortal while king thor still had all his physical states and this canon fodder robots didnt almost defeat him he actually owned them all hords of robots, king thor got his eye and arm ripped out by thing and a nobody version of the hulkwhen he blasted wolverine he still had the odin forceand it proves nothing at all seing how he was only able to burn his flesh and skin and melt 1 - 2 of his claws he didnt just melt his own skeleton it was 2 claws at best , and why is it suppose to impress me? superman 1 million was floating in supernova athmosphere while holding a war lord in a force field, note that he needed his force field only to protect the warlord from the supernova and galactic explotions he humself was just floating there unharmed.
kal needs the super sun and king thor needs the odi force so whats your point? as we saw the odin force can be taken away from him and i am preety sure if kal kent will just teleport the both of them into the fifth dimension he can do what ever he wants to king thor in the fifth dimension he will just strip him off his powers
i dont care what you find impressive or not, fact is a depowered superman 1 million just sniffed a mid - high herald like a fly, while king thor while only losing the odin force got his arm ripped out by freakin thing and nobody version of hulk, while full power he went toe 2 toe with iron man thats pathetic
king thor wont be able to behead superman 1 million, first of all superman 1 million is too fast for him, kal kent is faster than a tachyon, he was at several places at the same time and still manage to defuce a nanosecond bomb, kal kent is faster than all star superman , now show me king thor speed feats, you cant? that means he is only thor level fast vs someone who is faster than all star superman, that means kal kent will fly right to him grab his hammer and shove it up his ass before he can even react
kal kent is a telepath at high levels he can mind rape king thor or at least read up on his mind and know exactly what he is about to do and can do, superman 1 million is going to destroy king thor and tear him apart with his force vision, can you prove king thor is more resistant than a charging galaxy? if not that he will destroy him
can you prove king thor is more durable than a giant star? because superman 1 million can destroy one of those with only his breath
king thor cant even effect 1 million because kal kent is imune to magic therefor the odin force will do no good here unless you would like to prove otherwise
king thor is getting raped
Thor at his classic power levels killed the Hulk and the Thing while Kal Kent struggled against fodder. They're closing in from all sides. Right on panel.
Kal has to be in his own world to be near his super sun King Thor has the odinforce inside him. The Odinforce can only be shut off if the other pantheon figureheads agree and with a mage so in this versus thread it's not possible. See I actually use logic and reason while you just complain, complain, and complain. Quit complaining.
King Thor beat the Hulk and the Thing after he was attacked by Wolverine. He then killed Captain America while Kal Kent struggles against fodder like robots. Hulk and the thing>>>>fodder like robots. Point King Thor.
Show me something to corroborate this because on panel we see him get hit left and right. You can't cite examples based off hyperbole without anything to substantiate the claims.
You need to show Kal using this and to show someone mindraping King Thor. I guess in your world there were no telepaths while King Thor ruled over earth. Laughs.
By your logic Drax can tear into King Thor. It's downright stupid. King Thor tanked blasts from the Destroyer which killed asgardians and Loki as the sorcerer supreme. That's on panel while you just say silly thing after silly thing.
Prove Kal Kent is immune to all forms of magic since you made the claim.