King Thor (Reigning) vs. Kal Kent (Superman 853rd Century)

Originally posted by Gecko4life
king thor wont be able to do anything to kal kent due to couple reasons, first of all as i stated 1 million is by farrr faster than thor its not even a question, 1 million is a telepath he will read up on what king thor is about to do and just beat him to it, it takes time for thor to soul suck and we are talking about him fighting someone who is even faster than all star superman so Lol AT YOU

then we got the fact 1 million is uneffected by those kind of things, he is basically invulnerable like was stated he doesnt have weakness, a joker ghost was trying to posses him and it couldnt posses him because of his 5 IMP protection, even when apoch was trying to trap him in a time loop he still got out of that , soul such will not work on his because once again he got 5 IMP protection and because he is imune to magic and guess what? its magic.... therefor there is no chance on earth that a slow and magic attack like this will work on him

You need to show him resisting a soul suck not a possession attempt. You seem to be under the misunderstanding that it's the same thing.

Prove some of your rabid claims.

Originally posted by Gecko4life
Lol you idiot you cant even understand feats, let me explain what happened there so you stop being butthurt, hourman didnt help him punch the time itself he only created a form to time so 1 million can punch it, its like SBP punching the reality in a shape of a wall ... did anyone discredit him for breaking reality just because it was in a shape of a wall? so superman 1 million did it in a shape of a portal because if they showed him just punch the air and break time that means the whole dimension should have been destroyed until it reached the time stream itself, therefor superman 1 million did this feat all by himself with no help and even as wonder women stated herself no one can do that with their bare fists but superman 1 million could i guess

Just like Prime needs the right place to strike so does Kal Kent. Prime can't just start changing reality by wildly swinging in the air.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why does Kal win if he's near a super sun ? What evidence ?

Because he is more powerful then. Comics.

Originally posted by Gecko4life
wow you are pathetic seriously, he is ONLY as fast as a tachyon? do you realise a tachyon is faster than the speed of light??? so you are saying faster than the speed of light is no match for thor? and where are king thor speed feats? provide tham

oh so now you are b!tching it out and making it superman 1 million depowered without the super sun vs king thor? ok he is still more powerful based on the feats i have stated earlier, unless you want to provide me feats of king thor that are greater than defeating solaris, sniffing a high herald like a bug, breaking the time barrier and punching 853 centeries into the future, and of course holding back a charging galaxy which means he powers are messured with freaking galaxies, show me king thor being at those levels

prove king thor is more durable than superman 1 million

king thor greater energy output? superman 1 million while depowered can destroy a giant red star, show me king thor at the very least matching destroying a giant star

power in general? superman 1 million was holding a charging galaxy show me king thor comming even close to that overall power

that car scan is pathetic quan, that wasnt a car that was one of the metal man transformed into a car form however its a metal man who is a low level herald and it was a depowered superman 1 million attacked by surprise , why wont you show the rest of the fight? because as the fight continues there are 5 metal men who are getting their ass kicked by 1 million, then they all combine themself into a huge creture made out of 5 metal man and 1 million beats the living hell out of them without even getting touched

He isn't more powerful based off of feats which don't directly relate to combat. We see him in combat and it's nowhere near as impressive as King Thor in combat who takes out beings compared to Celestials and Galactus.

I already gave reasons why he is more powerful and debunked your non combat feats while explaining the context.

By your logic Drax the destroyer is stronger or more powerful than King Thor. It's absurd.

Combat related power is different than your ridiculous claims.

The metal men weren't powerful nor was Kal Kent's reaction time even above human level. Sorry.

Originally posted by Gecko4life
it doesnt matter because it will take him less than a second to behead king thor and rip out his second arm, unless you want to provide me proof that king thor is at least as fast at a tachyon which is faster than light

Originally posted by Gecko4life
evidence the fact he presented feats of being much much more powerful than the weakling king thor, what evidence do you have of king thor being able to win this? what kind of dumb questions do you ask?

Originally posted by Gecko4life
i have been posting my argument for superman 1 million 3 times already and every time i got banned and all my posts got erased thats how pathetic badabing is

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Because he is more powerful then. Comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Don't you know how to respond to multiple quotes in one post ? Thanks for responding like 13 times in a row. Laughing at cha.

Kal Kent was still using his powers he wasn't depowered completely just like King Thor lost his mega power in the Odinforce. Both had powers still but you want to create a false distinction and a double standard. Fine by me, kiddo.

King Thor didn't have his physical stats with the Odinforce he had them as his classic self. Big diff, sport.

Most of Kal's feats aren't even combat related. You want to ooooh and ahh over them but in combat the guy wasn't impressive. His foes weren't impressive. King Thor's foes were stated on panel to rival the Celestials and Galactus. Teehee.

The best if you want to dismiss his beheading of the Destroyer feat just because and you call everyone here biased. It's laughable. You have no case. You don't even know how to respond to a few posts at a time so it's no surprise I am dealing with someone of limited intelligence.

Put up or shut up, player.

King Thor was back to his classic self both retained some power but nowhere near full power.

Thor at his classic power levels killed the Hulk and the Thing while Kal Kent struggled against fodder. They're closing in from all sides. Right on panel.

Kal has to be in his own world to be near his super sun King Thor has the odinforce inside him. The Odinforce can only be shut off if the other pantheon figureheads agree and with a mage so in this versus thread it's not possible. See I actually use logic and reason while you just complain, complain, and complain. Quit complaining.

King Thor beat the Hulk and the Thing after he was attacked by Wolverine. He then killed Captain America while Kal Kent struggles against fodder like robots. Hulk and the thing>>>>fodder like robots. Point King Thor.

Show me something to corroborate this because on panel we see him get hit left and right. You can't cite examples based off hyperbole without anything to substantiate the claims.

You need to show Kal using this and to show someone mindraping King Thor. I guess in your world there were no telepaths while King Thor ruled over earth. Laughs.

By your logic Drax can tear into King Thor. It's downright stupid. King Thor tanked blasts from the Destroyer which killed asgardians and Loki as the sorcerer supreme. That's on panel while you just say silly thing after silly thing.

Prove Kal Kent is immune to all forms of magic since you made the claim.

cmon dont be trolling idiot, kal kent stated he lost all his powers and that he is becomming mortal, king thor lost the odin force but still had his physical states however kal kent lost most of his durability to the point he felt those robots and lost his strength thats the difference

are you serious? king thor without the odin force is just thor there is no strength for king thor its basically thor with the odin force

superman 1 million holding back a galaxy with his force vision isnt combat related? if he can hold back a charging galaxy that means his force vision can easily contain people that their overall power output cant supress that of a charging galaxy, he sniffed away a herald while depowered and thats isnt impressive? he beat the entire metal man combined while couldnt even fly thats not impressive? he defeated solaris who was at that time the DC version of galactus thats not impressive? now lets look at king thor.... toe 2 toe with iron man... cut and hurt by wolverine.... owned twice by desak... oh yeah and mjolnir beheading desak..... i think its clear who is the superior one , show me where was it stated his rivels were equel to the celestials

i was responding with so messed up posting because your butt budy badabing keeps banning me so i cant own you, thats why i kinda posted everything in a rash without orginize anything, however we can move out debate to comicvine and there wont be no badabing over there and you will get spanked so hard you will cry

can you prove it was king thor beheading desak and not mjolnir? for all that we know it could be a PIS feat for mjolnir itself that was meant to boast its return, can you provide evidence showing it was king thor who was empowering mjolnir to do so?

you idiot i gave you feats for superman 1 million yet you fail to put any feats for king thor all you do is law ball like a moron and then cry , either put up an argument or GTFO

as i explained king thor while losing only the odin force still had his physical state and hulk and thing crippled him and tore his body apart, kal kent lost all of his powers to the point he was becomming a mortal and still he owned this entire canon fodder, so what if he said they are closing from all the sides? he owned an entire army of those wave after wave unlike king thor who at full power couldnt even deal with iron man properly

the odin force can be taken away from king thor as was presented already and if kal kent who got 5 IMP powers will teleport him to the fifth dimension he will be able to do it IMO seeing how everytime he came up with new 5 IMP ability, as i stated before it doesnt matter if kal depowers or no because even without the super sun he will murder king thor within nanoseconds unless you provide evidence he will be able to react

superman 1 million mind raped a group of army man, and mind raped all star superman who is resistant to telepathy, now its your job to prove king thor can resist telepathy because i already proved he can mind rape someone with resistance to telepathy laughs

i will say it again, prove king thor is more durable than a giant star because if you cant than superman 1 million sniff his brains out with only his breath alone

it is stated magic doesnt work on superman 1 million i cant post scans but in his respect thread there is a scan galan posted of a villian stating no magic works on superman 1 million dig it bozo

Originally posted by quanchi112
Show Kal Kent using said speed in combat to avoid being hit. That's what you need to do. I shouldn't have to explain this. You have no proof to back your tactics just powerset arguing which still fails short because you have no examples just hyperbole.

You need to show him resisting a soul suck not a possession attempt. You seem to be under the misunderstanding that it's the same thing.

Prove some of your rabid claims.

I agree help Kal Kent cannot punch through time. Kal Kent punched through time during DC One Million #4 while very weakened but he used Steel's Chronal Engine as a medium .

Just like Prime needs the right place to strike so does Kal Kent. Prime can't just start changing reality by wildly swinging in the air.

kal kent was faster than all star superman, kal kent while couldnt fly and depowered was owning all the metal man combined without getting touched, kal kent was moving so fast he was doing several things at several times and still defuced a nano second bomb, he was stated by narration being faster than a tachyon eat that loser , now you have to prove king thor can match that kind of speed otherwise you are even dumber than you already are 😆

soul suck is magic and kal kent is imune to magic, beside that he can calculate billion scenarios within a second he will read thors mind will know what he is about to do and tear his head off before thor even raise his hammer cry me some more

are you that dumb? no one helped superman 1 million punch time, the portal was meant to give the time some apearence to punch, after all if he just punch the air the universe should be gone before he reach the time stream dont be a douch

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kal Kent needs a super sun and we still don't have the feats to back this hyperbolic claim.

He isn't more powerful based off of feats which don't directly relate to combat. We see him in combat and it's nowhere near as impressive as King Thor in combat who takes out beings compared to Celestials and Galactus.

I already gave reasons why he is more powerful and debunked your non combat feats while explaining the context.

By your logic Drax the destroyer is stronger or more powerful than King Thor. It's absurd.

Combat related power is different than your ridiculous claims.

The metal men weren't powerful nor was Kal Kent's reaction time even above human level. Sorry.

Cite proof for Kal doing anything this aggressive on someone close to King Thor's level. I just debunked your entire weak case. Your logic is so flawed you'd claim Drax is more powerful than King Thor since he ripped through a star.

without the super sun and while greatly depowered he basically owned the crap out of king thor by feats deal with that butthurt of yours

i already stated the feats of superman 1 million matching his powers with rushing galaxies owning solaris and breaking time its your turn to post king thor feats and stop with the butthurt

close to king thor level? kal kent owned solaris who was the DC version of galactus, solaris was by farrrr more powerful than king thor , as i said before show me feats of king thor even being able to match his power with stars not to mention galaxies and beings that can destroy them

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cry more. You're pathetic.

Based on what ?

not my fault your butt budy badabing is trying to help you with me at any cause , lets go to comicvine and see what happens

based on comics feats which i already posted bozo

face it quan you got owned hard because you lack of feats and basically just a troll now get lost

Originally posted by quanchi112

Based on what ?

Comics, I already told you that... 😐

king thor got his butthurt by freakin iron man 😆 😆

superman 1 million while depowered held back a rushing galaxy while being depowered, show me king thor matching his overall power with a rushing galaxy otherwise i can safely say superman 1 million will just crash him with the force vision

and to top it off quan you are a loser and backed out from our previous debate on comicvine and i got banned there, you are pathetic quan lets move our debate to comicvine or any other place you like i know badabing will ban me and delete all my arguments and this is exactly what you are waiting for you are counting the seconds until i am banned, lets debate somewhere else you choose

Originally posted by Gecko4life
cmon dont be trolling idiot, kal kent stated he lost all his powers and that he is becomming mortal, king thor lost the odin force but still had his physical states however kal kent lost most of his durability to the point he felt those robots and lost his strength thats the difference

are you serious? king thor without the odin force is just thor there is no strength for king thor its basically thor with the odin force [/B]

superman 1 million holding back a galaxy with his force vision isnt combat related? if he can hold back a charging galaxy that means his force vision can easily contain people that their overall power output cant supress that of a charging galaxy, he sniffed away a herald while depowered and thats isnt impressive? he beat the entire metal man combined while couldnt even fly thats not impressive? he defeated solaris who was at that time the DC version of galactus thats not impressive? now lets look at king thor.... toe 2 toe with iron man... cut and hurt by wolverine.... owned twice by desak... oh yeah and mjolnir beheading desak..... i think its clear who is the superior one , show me where was it stated his rivels were equel to the celestials [/B]

Kal Kent needed everyone's help to defeat solaris. Did you even read the comic ? Seriously. Galactus>>>>Solaris. You just make baseless statements. I already posted scans cementing this. I won't go the trouble I'd rather laugh since you won't post one single scan to muster any kind of defense. King Thor wields the hammer so now it's just a mjolnir feat despite it being within classic thor's powerset from back in his first appearance. LOL at cha.

i was responding with so messed up posting because your butt budy badabing keeps banning me so i cant own you, thats why i kinda posted everything in a rash without orginize anything, however we can move out debate to comicvine and there wont be no badabing over there and you will get spanked so hard you will cry [/B]

can you prove it was king thor beheading desak and not mjolnir? for all that we know it could be a PIS feat for mjolnir itself that was meant to boast its return, can you provide evidence showing it was king thor who was empowering mjolnir to do so? [/B]

you idiot i gave you feats for superman 1 million yet you fail to put any feats for king thor all you do is law ball like a moron and then cry , either put up an argument or GTFO [/B]

as i explained king thor while losing only the odin force still had his physical state and hulk and thing crippled him and tore his body apart, kal kent lost all of his powers to the point he was becomming a mortal and still he owned this entire canon fodder, so what if he said they are closing from all the sides? he owned an entire army of those wave after wave unlike king thor who at full power couldnt even deal with iron man properly [/B]

the odin force can be taken away from king thor as was presented already and if kal kent who got 5 IMP powers will teleport him to the fifth dimension he will be able to do it IMO seeing how everytime he came up with new 5 IMP ability, as i stated before it doesnt matter if kal depowers or no because even without the super sun he will murder king thor within nanoseconds unless you provide evidence he will be able to react [/B]

superman 1 million mind raped a group of army man, and mind raped all star superman who is resistant to telepathy, now its your job to prove king thor can resist telepathy because i already proved he can mind rape someone with resistance to telepathy laughs [/B]

it is stated magic doesnt work on superman 1 million i cant post scans but in his respect thread there is a scan galan posted of a villian stating no magic works on superman 1 million dig it bozo [/B][/QUOTE] By that logic Drax can rip through him. It's like me saying prove Superman is more durable than a planet and saying Gladiator destroys him based on this faulty logic.

Post proof magic doesn't work on Superman. Quit saying stuff prove stuff.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Comics, I already told you that... 😐

Originally posted by Gecko4life
kal kent was faster than all star superman, kal kent while couldnt fly and depowered was owning all the metal man combined without getting touched, kal kent was moving so fast he was doing several things at several times and still defuced a nano second bomb, he was stated by narration being faster than a tachyon eat that loser , now you have to prove king thor can match that kind of speed otherwise you are even dumber than you already are 😆

soul suck is magic and kal kent is imune to magic, beside that he can calculate billion scenarios within a second he will read thors mind will know what he is about to do and tear his head off before thor even raise his hammer cry me some more

are you that dumb? no one helped superman 1 million punch time, the portal was meant to give the time some apearence to punch, after all if he just punch the air the universe should be gone before he reach the time stream dont be a douch

He was stated with hyperbolic statements and dependent on being near a super sun.

He can't calculate billions of scenarios without a super sun. The guy couldn't avoid a car without one.

Post proof he is completely immune to all magic and then that King Thor's attacks are all magical.

Kal had a lot of help. Do you even leaf through these comics ?

He needed a medium in order to do so. That means he needs help or the right situation in order to do so along with Hourman and WW's aid all stated on panel.

Originally posted by Gecko4life
without the super sun and while greatly depowered he basically owned the crap out of king thor by feats deal with that butthurt of yours

i already stated the feats of superman 1 million matching his powers with rushing galaxies owning solaris and breaking time its your turn to post king thor feats and stop with the butthurt

close to king thor level? kal kent owned solaris who was the DC version of galactus, solaris was by farrrr more powerful than king thor , as i said before show me feats of king thor even being able to match his power with stars not to mention galaxies and beings that can destroy them

Originally posted by Gecko4life
not my fault your butt budy badabing is trying to help you with me at any cause , lets go to comicvine and see what happens

based on comics feats which i already posted bozo

Originally posted by Gecko4life
king thor got his butthurt by freakin iron man 😆 😆

Originally posted by Gecko4life
and to top it off quan you are a loser and backed out from our previous debate on comicvine and i got banned there, you are pathetic quan lets move our debate to comicvine or any other place you like i know badabing will ban me and delete all my arguments and this is exactly what you are waiting for you are counting the seconds until i am banned, lets debate somewhere else you choose

Kal wins. Total immunity to magic is a bitch for a god like thor. Also lulz at quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't lose all his powers he was still using them on panel. I know you're upset and can't keep the anger inside and want to lash out but just relax. Kal Kent's 'showings while depowered pale in comparison to King Thor's while depowered; combat related.
Without the Odinforce it's just classic Thor so quite a step down.
No, it isn't just like King Thor bringing someone back to life isn't. Classici Thor beat the snot out of Surfer and Warlock so even classic Thor laughs at punking Firestorm. It's laughable.

Kal Kent needed everyone's help to defeat solaris. Did you even read the comic ? Seriously. Galactus>>>>Solaris. You just make baseless statements. I already posted scans cementing this. I won't go the trouble I'd rather laugh since you won't post one single scan to muster any kind of defense. King Thor wields the hammer so now it's just a mjolnir feat despite it being within classic thor's powerset from back in his first appearance. LOL at cha.
Comicvine is slow to load and a terrible message board. It's weak just like you're weak.
The scan makes it clear the feat was possible due to the odinforce. King Thor wields the war hammer so make some sense please. Trying to argue Thor's weapon now doesn't even count is beyond trolling it's delusional.
The feats you gave aren't combat related. You also want to dismiss how he stacks up against his opponents with excuses while arguing he's so fast nothing touches him. Fail.
King Thor still took their lives. He won. Kal Kent was getting worked by fodder. The scan made it clear it was getting bleak while King Thor just manned up and sonned the opposition.
It can be taken away if [B]the other pantheon heads use their power to help. Without the super sun he doesn't have the new abilities or the speed. Even with it you don't have any proof. 🙂
Army men...oh no King Thor is in for it this time. Is all star superman even canon ? You need to prove he can mindrape King Thor.
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it is stated magic doesnt work on superman 1 million i cant post scans but in his respect thread there is a scan galan posted of a villian stating no magic works on superman 1 million dig it bozo [/B][/QUOTE] By that logic Drax can rip through him. It's like me saying prove Superman is more durable than a planet and saying Gladiator destroys him based on this faulty logic.

Post proof magic doesn't work on Superman. Quit saying stuff prove stuff. [/B][/QUOTE]

you are just going circles with me qun like a sour loser thats fine i realise you know you lost, kal kent stated on panel he lost all his powers he couldnt fly he lost his durability to the point he couldnt believe, he lost his strength to a point he couldnt believe, he stated he is becomming mortal, king thor just lost the odin force however all his states were there with him , kal kent sniffed a herald with just his breath like a bug can you show me king thor doing anything like that? last time we saw him fighting a heral who is iron man he got hurt preety bad 😆

prove that galactus is >>>> solaris, solaris was described as the ultimate threat that can destroy galaxies of life that alone is at least equel to galactus, it was the ultimate power and no superman didnt use the help of others now you are just making shit up like a b!tch, superman 1 million traped solaris in his force vision and stated he can hold solaris long enough to just destroy it

as i said before mjolnir beheading desak in the destroyer armor is a feat for mjolnir to boast its return prove me wrong, why couldnt king thor defeat desak twice when they fought? and now desak is in the destroyer armor and suddenly he can just one shot him? did he recieve any amp? as i said before it was a feat for mjolnir alone and a PIS feat

the feats i gave are combat related since i pointed out beings that kal kent defeated and i pointed out abilities that can be used in battles which you didnt reply with king thor abilities so basically you admit you got owned

without the super sun he does have all his abilities but he is losing them as time goes by, when he only started losing his powers he still was holding back a charging galaxy and he still sniffed firestorm and he still could destroy a giant star and time travel, all that while being slightly depowered , as i said before he doesnt need the super sun to destroy king thor he does it withint nanoseconds

yes all star is canon since in all star superman 1 million stated events that happened in the 1 million universe therefor its related

i showed you kal kent mind raping someone who is resistant to telepathy you either show me king thor being resistant to telepathy at all or i can clearly say kal kent mind rapes him since its within his abilities its your job to prove this power wont work on king thor

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kal wins. Total immunity to magic is a bitch for a god like thor. Also lulz at quan.