Man follows black teen who seems "suspicious" and kills him.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
perhaps, if you define "proposing ignorance" as presenting unsubstantiated assumptions as fact. perhaps.

Ahh. Too bad...because I dealt in information we did know. You could try harder.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
why is it that you cannot handle constructive criticism without playing the victim in an overly dramatic fashion and crying "troll"?

So let's recap:

1. You tried to troll myself and others, but were way off base at least with my case (but we know you were directly referring to at least me because of how butthurt you got in this thread, in the past, over things I commented).
2. Got called out on it and the trolling, but got butthurt.
2. Now you're claiming I pretended to play a victim when I clearly pointed out you failed to make me a victim.

Ahh. Too bad. You tried, man. You tried.

ok, i can see you are prepared to destroy the next 3 pages of discussion with your infamous distractive and dramatic spectacle, rather than allow a shred of constructive criticism to creep past your ego and into your good senses. that along with your pathological need for the last word is why i will leave it there.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ok, i can see you are prepared to destroy the next 3 pages of discussion with your infamous distractive and dramatic spectacle, rather than allow a shred of constructive criticism to creep past your ego and into your good senses. that along with your pathological need for the last word is why i will leave it there.

It's just too bad, man. You tried your best to troll but it wasn't up to snuff. Well, hey, you tried and you knew what would happen if you did troll...but you just didn't realize your troll attempt failed before posting it.

So, you coming over for drinks, Saturday?

I agree. They could contact inimalist for the medical report, juggerman for the actual events the went down, and you for the police report.

this was added after i "co-signed" 🙁

i only agree with 2/3 of this 😄

Ha ha ha ha I laughed so hard I hit my head.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The argument is: "They both stood their ground because both of them can defend that they were preventing deadly force from the other."

ok... but "standing one's ground" colloquially is different from using the stand your ground defense. the latter, by definition, cannot apply to Martin

Originally posted by dadudemon
Where did you get this medical report that says they were "minor wounds to the head"?

the medics who examined him at the scene and the medical report from zimmermans family doctor

his most serious injury was a broken nose. idk, we can argue the semantics of "minor", it certainly isn't serious or life threatening

Originally posted by dadudemon
They could contact inimalist for the medical report

you do realize this information is already part of the public record? sorry for researching the points I want to make, /shrug

maybe I should come up with unrelated hypotheticals that are entirely irrelevant, then I can be part of the bro crew!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ha ha ha ha I laughed so hard I hit my head.

Clearly this is how Zimmerman sustained his wounds, after he shot Martin.

the medics who examined him at the scene and the medical report from zimmermans family doctor

his most serious injury was a broken nose. idk, we can argue the semantics of "minor", it certainly isn't serious or life threatening

possibly because Zimmerman shot him before the injuries became worse? im really starting to believe you just think Zimmerman should have waited until Martin cracked his skull

Clearly this is how Zimmerman sustained his wounds, after he shot Martin.

i actually considered this but i dunno if he had time to. didnt someone walk up to them right after he shot Martin? i recall something like this

Originally posted by juggerman
possibly because Zimmerman shot him before the injuries became worse?

do you even read what you post?

yes, if that is the case, then you essentially agree with me yet fail to understand the application of the law...

go ahead, make up another situation where you ask me about someone with a gun

Originally posted by juggerman
possibly because Zimmerman shot him before the injuries became worse? im really starting to believe you just think Zimmerman should have waited until Martin cracked his skull

As I said pages ago, you like to jump to conclusions, but you're clearly biased that those conclusions be pro-Zimmerman no matter what.

Broken nose + injury to the back of the head could just as likely mean Martin punched Zimmerman and he fell and cracked his head; not Martin punched him, jumped on top and was trying to mash his brains out. See.

do you even read what you post?

not always

yes, if that is the case, then you essentially agree with me yet fail to understand the application of the law...

self defense law says you can shoot someone who is attacking you when severe bodily injury or death is imminent. so the fact that it wasnt done yet wouldnt really matter

go ahead, make up another situation where you ask me about someone with a gun

ok. a man with a gun is about to shoot you. you shoot him dead before he fires. solve for "X"

As I said pages ago, you like to jump to conclusions, but you're clearly biased that those conclusions be pro-Zimmerman no matter what.

Broken nose + injury to the back of the head could just as likely mean Martin punched Zimmerman and he fell and cracked his head; not Martin punched him, jumped on top and was trying to mash his brains out. See.

im not jumping anywhere. i didnt make up the "Martin attacked Zimmerman" defense did i? you clearly seem to believe so. im going off of what Zimmerman has said. you guys are the ones pulling stories out of nowhere

Originally posted by Robtard
As I said pages ago, you like to jump to conclusions, but you're clearly biased that those conclusions be pro-Zimmerman no matter what.

Broken nose + injury to the back of the head could just as likely mean Martin punched Zimmerman and he fell and cracked his head; not Martin punched him, jumped on top and was trying to mash his brains out. See.

It could also be the result of time travelers interacting with a UFO causing the ship to hit Zim on the nose, and making him hit his head.

Prove me wrong. 😉

It could also be the result of time travelers interacting with a UFO causing the ship to hit Zim on the nose, and making him hit his head.

Prove me wrong.

then Trayvon went over to help Zimmerman up but the Time Traveler tried to steal Zimmermans gun and in the struggle the gun accidently fired.

Originally posted by juggerman
then Trayvon went over to help Zimmerman up but the Time Traveler tried to steal Zimmermans gun and in the struggle the gun accidently fired.

Damn you Kirk!

or was it Marty McFly and Doc Brown?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It could also be the result of time travelers interacting with a UFO causing the ship to hit Zim on the nose, and making him hit his head.

Prove me wrong. 😉

Ultimately I can't, though some scenarios are far more probable than others. eg Zimmerman being punched is far more probable than a time traveling/space ship hitting him in the nose.

Just as it's more probably Zimmerman was the one looking for a confrontation here over Martin, going off the 911 call.

Just as it's more probably Martin feared for his life or felt threatened first, going off the 911 call.

But hey, you go with the UFO theory.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ultimately I can't, though some scenarios are far more probable than others. eg Zimmerman being punched is far more probably than a time traveling/space ship hitting him in the nose.

Just as it's more probably Zimmerman was the one looking for a confrontation here over Martin, going off the 911 call.

Just as it's more probably Martin feared for his life or felt threatened first, going off the 911 call.

But hey, you go with the UFO theory.

I was inspired by you avatar. 😉

Just as it's more probably Zimmerman was the one looking for a confrontation here over Martin, going off the 911 call.

Just as it's more likely Martin feared for his life or felt threatened first, going off the 911 call, Zimmerman's.

i agree but looking to verbally confront some one and to physically confront them are very different. Zimmerman could have had every intention to slug it out with Martin and when things got bad he pussed out and shot him

or he could have just asked what Martin was doing and Martin being scared attacked Zimmerman and Zim had no choice.

both are just theories and need to be proven

I was inspired by you avatar.

i was wondering if that was the reason you went with Kirk

Originally posted by juggerman
i agree but looking to verbally confront some one and to pshically confront them are very different. Zimmerman could have had every intention to slug it out with Martin and when things got bad he pussed out and shot him

or he could have just asked what Martin was doing and Martin being scared attacked Zimmerman and Zim had no choice.

both are just theories and need to be proven

No shit, no one outside knows, since 1-half of the party involved is dead; killed by the other half

But you go with "I'm going with what Zimmerman said" as fact.

But you go with "I'm going with what Zimmerman said" as fact.

im constantly saying things like "according to Zim" and "if that is what happened" so how am i just going with what he said is the truth? have you even been paying attention?

seems to me that youve already decided that the man is lying without any evidence to support it