Man follows black teen who seems "suspicious" and kills him.

Originally posted by the ninjak
😂 man I was drunk and probably rattled by online comments last night. I gotta stop doing that.😑

I'm reading what I wrote now and it's a blur. I agree it makes no sense. It looks like I was having 3 different conversations in 1.

Anyways now I'm sober the polices actions are completely disrespectful to the public. I don't know why higher powers haven't gotten involved yet.

Because it's the higher powers that are making things the way that they are?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/24/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

A lawyer for the man at the center of the Trayvon Martin death investigation said Florida's "stand your ground" law doesn't apply to the shooting that killed the unarmed teen. "In my legal opinion, that's not really applicable to this case. The statute on 'stand your ground' is primarily when you're in your house," said Craig Sonner, attorney for George Zimmerman. "This is self-defense, and that's been around for forever -- that you have a right to defend yourself. So the next issue (that) is going to come up is, was he justified in using the amount of force he did?"

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who signed the bill into law, said Friday he does not believe it applies to the case. "Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn't mean chase after somebody who's turned their back," Bush said while visiting a university campus in Texas.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I just saw a guy put up an 1984 picture in relation to getting screwed by a company.

I think that's more Apple's fault.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because it's the higher powers that are making things the way that they are?

You would think the feds could arrest the murderer regardless of the local police not doing so based on this "stand your ground" law.

The boy was unarmed. Showed no ability to harm the assailant. The assailant made a phone call to the police spouting mentally disturbed rantings before doing the deed. The police showed little intent on solving the case.

Originally posted by the ninjak
You would think the feds could arrest the murderer regardless of the local police not doing so based on this "stand your ground" law.

The boy was unarmed. Showed no ability to harm the assailant. The assailant made a phone call to the police spouting mentally disturbed rantings before doing the deed. The police showed little intent on solving the case.

You'd think we'd have done away with it after it caused the Civil War, but no.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/24/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

though im really no good at interpreting legalese. it all seems so vaguely written to me.

But the law should be change to a case by case basis because it makes no sense...

I kinda feel sorry for Zimmerman for trying to be a hero and being driven by stupidity, he went to wreck his life...it is his fault but at the same time stupidity drives us to do stupid things! I still think he should go to jail and face the music; I fear if he doesnt someone is going to try to kill him wherever that may be. An eye for an eye or so they say.

I like this cartoon.
http://themoderatevoice.com/142346/stand-your-ground-before-he-stands-his-ground/

It actually brings up a good point about the stand your ground law. If the kid though he was in danger from the armed man following him through the ran then defense that "he attacked me so I shot him" is invalid since (as I understand the law) it would have been 100% legal for the kid to try and kill him.

The law is that if someone is trying to break into your house, if you try to defend yourself by killing them then you can go to jail, however until they actually break in then you can shoot them to defend yourself. But in a case like this, Zimmerman sought out the kid and endangered himself, if Zimmerman felt danger they why on earth did he go towards the hooded man??

Reading the statute there is no mention of "in your house". If that law is Zimmerman's defense it should be Trayvon's defense, too.

I think they are looking to change that law, Zimmerman may be a free man but not for longer, the people demand justice and the law is made to protect those such people, if the law fails to do so then there is no point of having laws and we would be in chaos.

Zimmerman might have felt he was doing the right thing but he has already had to move from his house, and has started to get alot of death threats, it's only a matter of time before he turns himself in or kills himself. I feel sorry for that fact that he made such a stupid mistake..

I don't. There's too many people on the planet for me to care about one idiot killing himself. Walking around with a gun antagonizing people because they "look suspicious" is just asking for trouble. Society doesn't need people like that wandering around unchecked. That's why we have police.

Originally posted by rudester
I think they are looking to change that law, Zimmerman may be a free man but not for longer, the people demand justice and the law is made to protect those such people, if the law fails to do so then there is no point of having laws and we would be in chaos.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's not a matter of the law itself, just a failure of the authorities to apply it right.

Remember Zimmerman called the police first, the policeman told him to sit back the police are on their way, Zimmerman then made the conscious choice to follow him.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't. There's too many people on the planet for me to care about one idiot killing himself. Walking around with a gun antagonizing people because they "look suspicious" is just asking for trouble. Society doesn't need people like that wandering around unchecked. That's why we have police.

Unfortunitly neighbourhood watchers work with the police to rat people out, I've been reading online and there are a few programs where police use neighbourhood watchers to tag people for speeding violations; infact the whole police system is a business like it or not, the business of crime. Police inforce tickets, by using the law they can say you commited a small infraction.

Feeling sorry for Zimmerman? Hahaha, funny.

He shot someone fleeing. Even if that kid were a thief, shooting him to death is excessive and outright criminal, as he was fleeing; that's the opposite of attacking.

I head that Zimmerman had a broken arm from this fleeing guy. It also took place a mount ago. This whole thing sticks, in all directions.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I head that Zimmerman had a broken arm from this fleeing guy. It also took place a mount ago. This whole thing sticks, in all directions.

given even Zimmerman's own 911 call, the teen would have been well within his rights to defend himself...

I hope he broke the idiot's arm

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I head that Zimmerman had a broken arm from this fleeing guy.

First I heard of that. I'm certain that would come out in a trial, hospital records and such.

Originally posted by Robtard
First I heard of that. I'm certain that would come out in a trial, hospital records and such.

I think there is something bigger behind all of this. I know that sounds conspiratorial, but I am not a conspiracy type person. I just have a gut feeling, that could be wrong.