Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Nice strawman attempt.Me thinking a feat is stupid/silly/absurd =/= me thinking said feat doesn't count or shouldn't be used. Thor and Hulk have retarded feats too and I never said otherwise.
And you honestly don't think any of what you typed up here is bitter sounding at all? 😬
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope.
You sure about that?
Because the two posts reeked of a thinly veiled accusation that I somehow "pick" on Superman or something but let Thor get a pass or that there's some kind of movement against PC Superman for whatever reason. I've dealt with that shit before, so I'm pretty keen on picking up when that sentiment is uttered or implied.
It's the only thing that makes sense given the oddly specific examples such as Chaos King or a speed feat 40 years ago.
If you have an accusation to make, go ahead and make it, but don't try to come off as snippy in your posts or resort to strawman tactics.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You sure about that?Because the two posts reeked of a thinly veiled accusation that I somehow "pick" on Superman or something but let Thor get a pass or that there's some kind of movement against PC Superman for whatever reason. I've dealt with that shit before, so I'm pretty keen on picking up when that sentiment is uttered or implied.
It's the only thing that makes sense given the oddly specific examples such as Chaos King or a speed feat 40 years ago.
If you have an accusation to make, go ahead and make it, but don't try to come off as snippy in your posts or resort to strawman tactics.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I was just ridiculing the notion that since its silver age, its ok to dismiss superman's feats but bring feats of thor or silver surfer which are as ridiculous or even more than superman from the same era. You can think that "I sounds bitter" but frankly I don't care at all. I didn't accuse of anything at all, I told you directly.
Which feats of Thor's or Silver Surfer's are as or more ridiculous than Superman of the same era? Legitimately curious.
And again, who says I'm dismissing those feats to begin with? I can think those feats are ridiculous as all hell (some of them truly are) and are downright absurd in some cases. That in of itself doesn't mean I think they don't exist or don't count. Like I said before, that's where being objective comes in. There's plenty of stuff in comics I'm not a fan of or think don't even bother deserve being printed on paper in the first place, but I don't wave my hand and act like they never happened or arbitrarily decide what counts and what doesn't.
Originally posted by abhilegendSo you're complaining he needs to win more decisively in your mind for it to be a fair thread ? You can't be this simple. It's an external amp. The arc he appeared throughout in 1 million he was without it pretty much the entire arc. It's an amp plain and simple. Odinforce is far more powerful than Kal Kent.
Nope, it's the normal power source for him which you took away in your thread. He still wins but add super sun and its no contest.
Originally posted by biensalsaWhoa, whoa, whoa. A specific weakness is one thing that doesn't need using said weakness is a win either but acting like gas is a weakness to the Hulk is inaccurate.
Gas is not a specific weakness for the Hulk, but people seem to forget that just because characters have no specific weakness, they are unbeatableLike for example Thor, for what I have seen about Thor, He is not immune to powerful lasers, yet most people will believe that no laser in the universe will be able to hurt Thor, so therefore Superman's laser vision can do nothing to Thor.
So, yes I agree You can take Superman down if you hit him hard enough, but will you agree that you can severe one of Thor's limbs with a laser?
Go into any single thread of SM in here and you will always find the words Kryptonite, Red. and Magic
Go to any of the others and you will rarely see a Hulk thread mentioning Gas, even though Gas should be considered a weakness for Hulk, because hes been defeated with it many, many times.
The point is that every character has limits, but people seem to forget about those.
The Hulk isn't 100 percent immune to gas but it isn't something akin to red solar energy to Superman.
No one argues this way or from what I've seen so slow down. Magic, red solar energy, and kryptonite are weakness to Superman. This is dc's thing while marvel doesn't list gas as a weakness for the Hulk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're complaining he needs to win more decisively in your mind for it to be a fair thread ? You can't be this simple. It's an external amp. The arc he appeared throughout in 1 million he was without it pretty much the entire arc. It's an amp plain and simple. Odinforce is far more powerful than Kal Kent. Whoa, whoa, whoa. A specific weakness is one thing that doesn't need using said weakness is a win either but acting like gas is a weakness to the Hulk is inaccurate.The Hulk isn't 100 percent immune to gas but it isn't something akin to red solar energy to Superman.
No one argues this way or from what I've seen so slow down. Magic, red solar energy, and kryptonite are weakness to Superman. This is dc's thing while marvel doesn't list gas as a weakness for the Hulk.
Should I collect all of them??? This is only the tip of the iceberg.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Hulk%20and%20gas%20attacks/
Originally posted by biensalsaIt's the same as me using punches or something to show Superman has a weakness to fists.
Should I collect all of them??? This is only the tip of the iceberg.http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Hulk%20and%20gas%20attacks/
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's the same as me using punches or something to show Superman has a weakness to fists.
Not the same thing at all.
It should be said that Hulk has been known on many occasions that he can be affected by gas (important to note what kind/potency). Now while it probably isn't correct to label it as a weakness, people probably do so because when we're talking about people on Superman's (or even Hulk's) level of invulnerability, we wouldn't expect mere gas (unless its some super gas) to affect him.
You can say Superman has been known on many occasions that he can be affected by physical force in the form of a punch. Just sounds silly.
BTW I don't even know why there's a debate on whether to call gas a weakness or not for Hulk. Either establish Hulk has a considerable history of being affected by it or not. Even after that I don't know what the original point was and how its relevant to this fight.
Originally posted by Placidity
Not the same thing at all.It should be said that Hulk has been known on many occasions that he can be affected by gas (important to note what kind/potency). Now while it probably isn't correct to label it as a weakness, people probably do so because when we're talking about people on Superman's (or even Hulk's) level of invulnerability, we wouldn't expect mere gas (unless its some super gas) to affect him.
You can say Superman has been known on many occasions that he can be affected by physical force in the form of a punch. Just sounds silly.
BTW I don't even know why there's a debate on whether to call gas a weakness or not for Hulk. Either establish Hulk has a considerable history of being affected by it or not. Even after that I don't know what the original point was and how its relevant to this fight.
Yes, I agree this is not labeled a weakness but a vulnerability and it should be mentioned that it would depend on the potency on the gas and weather He inhales the vapors or not.
The point I'm making is that in most forums people forget that all the superheroes have limits, vulnerabilities or weaknesses and people seem to forget them.
Case in point, now they are asking "when was the last time Hulk faced gas" as if Hulk is not vulnerable to gas anymore if He inhales the vapors.
That is all, people forget for their own benefit that all superheroes have vulnerabilities and focus all their attention in creating kryptonite around