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Anyways, Wonder Woman stronger than Thor? That's silly.
Thor's stronger imo, and noticeably tougher. Diana might very well be stronger than John and isn't that far behind Captain Marvel the majority of the time though. From some of their fights against common foes like the White Martians in JLA, John is clearly superior, DC has a fair number of contradictory evidence when it comes to the high end bricks.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
but thor beat captain marvel in the cross over 😕
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
also hercules matched wonder woman in the cross over
and Superman's dials went to 11 in a crossover
And Storm beat Diana in a crossover, and Wolverine beat Lobo, and Spiderman beat Superboy.
We've been through this a million times. It doesn't mean anything, it was fan voting to determine the outcome. Thor is way more popular than Captain Marvel. Doesn't mean anything.
Thor is stronger, Thor, Superman ,Captain Marvel, Orion Black Adam , Hulk, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer are in high end herald strength level, she is a notch below them, but that doesn't mean she cant hang with her peers. Feat wise Thor is stronger, like Superman, Thor holds back tremendously, Thor is more durable, more experience and more powerful and more versatile!
Originally posted by Cogito
and Superman's dials went to 11 in a crossoverAnd Storm beat Diana in a crossover, and Wolverine beat Lobo, and Spiderman beat Superboy.
We've been through this a million times. It doesn't mean anything, it was fan voting to determine the outcome. Thor is way more popular than Captain Marvel. Doesn't mean anything.
The Superman vs Venom fight wasn't fan voted. 😈
Originally posted by CogitoThat was trashtalk. I am sure you'd ignore Superman's other comments and just focus on the trashtalk.
and Superman's dials went to 11 in a crossoverAnd Storm beat Diana in a crossover, and Wolverine beat Lobo, and Spiderman beat Superboy.
We've been through this a million times. It doesn't mean anything, it was fan voting to determine the outcome. Thor is way more popular than Captain Marvel. Doesn't mean anything.
Originally posted by Cogito
and Superman's dials went to 11 in a crossoverAnd Storm beat Diana in a crossover, and Wolverine beat Lobo, and Spiderman beat Superboy.
We've been through this a million times. It doesn't mean anything, it was fan voting to determine the outcome. Thor is way more popular than Captain Marvel. Doesn't mean anything.
Actually, the Thor and Captain Marvel fight was one of the fights that wasn't fan voted. As far as battles go, it was kind of short but somewhat accurate, they were physical peers but Mjolnir and Thor's dominion over lightning gave him the edge. It's how I'd consider them matching up although I don't think it'd go the exact same way.
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The crossover was accurate enough that I won't complain. The only parts that stood out for me as silly was the way Namor was taken out and Storm blocking Diana's kick. I don't really care about Logan beating Lobo (Worst things have happened to the Main Man), Spider-Man beat Superboy in a believable manner from what I remember and Diana while resistant, could be taken out by lightning under some IIRC. My favorite fight was Superman vs. the Hulk.
That being said, half the fights were fan voted so that influenced the direction the writers could take, which is something worth noting and important to consider before using them as any sort of evidence. They're also crossovers, meaning they aren't conclusive.
Originally posted by Cogito
Even if they weren't fan voted, they still don't mean anything.They had to have an even number of fights, and Marvel and DC had to have a even number of victories. It's all decided by trying to be fair overall to the companies and fan bases rather than accurate.
and it's still not canon.
It's true, crossovers ultimately aren't conclusive evidence, but everyone knows that much already.
Really, where did you come across this information? Or is it just your impression/opinion?
For the record, it's more canon than JLA/Avengers, at least at the time. The writer/artist pointed out that it was supposed to be canon and it was referenced in both Universes. Just so you know.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really, where did you come across this information? Or is it just your impression/opinion?
Just logical 😕 Can you imagine if either DC or Marvel won all the fights? Fans would have thrown fits...the losing company would have felt disrespected and and second class.
I'm not sure what feats we're using to state that Diana is certainly noticeably stronger than Thor. Her fighting/combat feats certainly don't display anything beyond Thor strength wise and her helping move the moon/Earth doesn't strike me as above and beyond anything Thor can do if placed in the same situation.
As far as the Captain Marvel/Thor fight goes, it was certainly one of the more accurate fights to go down in Marvel vs. DC, canon or not, and said fight was even referenced in the Power of Shazam not too long after said crossover was over. But it's moot anyway.
And the gap between Superman/Captain Marvel and Thor isn't larger than the gap between Superman/Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman. 😬
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
and her helping move the moon/Earth doesn't strike me as above and beyond anything Thor can do if placed in the same situation.
Opinion.
They are in separate companies, so one can't do the old peer comparison run-through.
It has to be through feats.
And helping move the Earth with J'onn and Superman is a better quantifiable feat than say the Midgard Serpent.
