Who is Stronger...Wonder Woman or Thor

Started by JakeTheBank12 pages

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Opinion.

They are in separate companies, so one can't do the old peer comparison run-through.

It has to be through feats.

And helping move the Earth with J'onn and Superman is a better quantifiable feat than say the Midgard Serpent.

Not really.

Yes, you can, ironically based through feats. Combat feats count, too, and you don't throw those out in the case of inter-company fights, otherwise said debates go nowhere fast. At least nowhere objective.

I don't think it's as good as generating enough force to throw Earth out of orbit with one arm. And pulling the Earth with help, which wasn't resisting, isn't exactly on the same level as pulling the Midgard Serpent by one's self, who was actively crushing the Earth, imho.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not really.

Yes, you can, ironically based through feats. Combat feats count, too, and you don't throw those out in the case of inter-company fights, otherwise said debates go nowhere fast. At least nowhere objective.

I don't think it's as good as generating enough force to throw Earth out of orbit with one arm. And pulling the Earth with help, which wasn't resisting, isn't exactly on the same level as pulling the Midgard Serpent by one's self, who was actively crushing the Earth, imho.

Yes.

Um what? You cannot do a comparison across companies without feats. Otherwise you have absolutely no data to support your stance. How does one even get to the point of being able to argue that Thor might be an equal of X character in another company without feats to compare? What I'm saying IS objective.

You cannot say "well Thor for sure is a peer of Superman because I feel its right, and Wonder Woman is not quite a peer of Superman because of how they stack up in the stories, and thus Thor is stronger". That doesn't work. Especially because the first claim is one that's in doubt, especially when looking at feats, and because they don't exist in the same canon, thus you cannot argue equality the way you can story wise with say Captain Marvel and Superman.

No way. The Midgard Serpent's weight was yet to be stated. So, its fair game to calculate, and by calculations its still significantly less in weight than even the moon. It crushing the earth shouldn't be so impressive, it weighs what, quadrillions of tons last I remembered, anything that size/weight simply being laid on earth would do immense damage. The earth isn't exactly a solid, sturdy mass.

The arm wrestling earth off axis thing is questionable as a gag, besides that, actually pulling the earth, acting against the sun's gravity, is a far better feat anyway.

Captan Marvel vs Thor was very stupid and silly. The only accurate thing in that fight is how they went blow for blow for a few panels and then plot induced stupidity kicked in. Same goes for Lobo/Wolverine and Namor/Aquaman; PIS that is.

If only those fights went like Surfer/Lantern and Flash/Quicksilver. Not the best fights ever but the superior fighter won fair and square.

Originally posted by Cogito
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The point was that Crossovers aren't canon and don't mean shit.

Ok, marvel still has Thor dominating their Superman--aka Gladiator on panel. I'm good with that.
Originally posted by carver9
The Superman vs Venom fight was a much worse showing imo. Superman had the aid of Spiderman and still lost to Venom.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm not sure what feats we're using to state that Diana is certainly noticeably stronger than Thor. Her fighting/combat feats certainly don't display anything beyond Thor strength wise and her helping move the moon/Earth doesn't strike me as above and beyond anything Thor can do if placed in the same situation.

As far as the Captain Marvel/Thor fight goes, it was certainly one of the more accurate fights to go down in Marvel vs. DC, canon or not, and said fight was even referenced in the Power of Shazam not too long after said crossover was over. But it's moot anyway.

And the gap between Superman/Captain Marvel and Thor isn't larger than the gap between Superman/Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman. 😬

I've never been a fan of using feats to determine superiority. It's absurd. take the movie Immortals for instance we see Poseidon capable of creating such force as he jumps into the water but in combat far less kills him by foes minus the feats. Feats are cool but writers don't give a rats ass when these guys start punching each other.

If it was referenced then it's canon to Captain Marvel. Awesome.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Black Adam & Captain Marvel>>Wonder Woman in strength

i dont see how some people think wonder woman is stronger than thor?
that would mean superman & captain marvel>>>Thor in strength

From Billy and Wondy's encounters, they've seemed pretty evenly matched on a physical level.

Superman was losing his powers during the Venom fight, I wish people knew the context of things before they try to lowball characters. And the Superman vs Thor fight is canon.

Anyone got scans of this awesome epic Snake vs Hulk?

Originally posted by Konton
From Billy and Wondy's encounters, they've seemed pretty evenly matched on a physical level.

Yea, which should surprise no-one, both being champions of identical, and eventually merged, gods.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman was losing his powers during the Venom fight, I wish people knew the context of things before they try to lowball characters. And the Superman vs Thor fight is canon.
I've never seen any proof the Superman/Thor fight is canon to Thor for marvel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've never seen any proof the Superman/Thor fight is canon to Thor for marvel.

Scarlet Witch comes to mind.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman was losing his powers during the Venom fight, I wish people knew the context of things before they try to lowball characters. And the Superman vs Thor fight is canon.

When was this stated? Scans please.

Originally posted by carver9
When was this stated? Scans please.

Last time I asked for a scan from you, you told me that you're not doing my research for me. Here's what you do: Figure out when that crossover happened, then look at what was happening to Superman during that time period. You'll figure it out. (Maybe not)

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Last time I asked for a scan from you, you told me that you're not doing my research for me. Here's what you do: Figure out when that crossover happened, then look at what was happening to Superman during that time period. You'll figure it out. (Maybe not)

Ive read that comic numerous of times and it was never stated. What scan did I NOT provide you?

thor>diana

^ Fanboy uhuh

THOR is without question stronger than WW. Even as strong as she is... And without question she is godly strong. Being true to that very word.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
^ Fanboy uhuh

don't tell 😛

Somebody told me Diana is 5 Times stronger than Thor. I made this thread to see if that statement was true...see if I was missing out on something.

Originally posted by carver9
Somebody told me Diana is 5 Times stronger than Thor. I made this thread to see if that statement was true.

Rubbish I say...

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Originally posted by carver9
Somebody told me Diana is 5 Times stronger than Thor. I made this thread to see if that statement was true...see if I was missing out on something.

You should know better.