Originally posted by abhilegendIt was stated the Blue Sun would have an affect on Superman and they didn't know how it would. From that point on you don't know how he was amped. Maybe it was just his speed that was amped, maybe he only got create Superman vision. Or maybe he got make things better vision and just flied around the city matter manipulating it. It's possible Jonathen Kent under the Blue Sun received a similar upgrade.
Its hard to guess with you. There was no indication that superman was amped, bizarro supermen produced by bizarro from superman's body by his duplicate vision subdued superman, bizarro doomsday was oneshotting them and jonathan kent with superman's powers oneshotted bizarro doomsday. Supergirl didn't show any indication of amping too on bizarro world, add in bizarro girl weakening by yellow sunlight and its perfectly clear that superman was not amped on bizarro world. A speculation by Jor-El isn't the enough proof that superman was amped.
Basically the whole environment was variable and not constant.
Now you want to show he wasn't amped show him doing something similar without being under a blue sun. That's generally a good indication.
And Nul was an amped version of WWH period.
And why was this stuff brought up?
Originally posted by Newjak
And Nul was an amped version of WWH period.
😂 I'm not going to debate this today...we have been going at it a week strong. I agree with your post though...he is just in denial but if he wants to agree to disagree and the mods don't mind, I wouldn't be mad because I am feaming to use those strength fts of Nul in a certain strength thread involving Hulk.
Originally posted by Delta1938It's fun to make rounds to other sites and branch yourself out because these sites don't really acquire that many new active posters anymore.
For some reason, when I come to a site, I'll debate a lot for a while, then just stop, rarely coming back. I don't even know why. My old site is the only exception, I've always come back to that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's fun to make rounds to other sites and branch yourself out because these sites don't really acquire that many new active posters anymore.
We'll see what happens. I don't even know why I stop posting at other sites after so long. I just, lose interest, even if the debate is still active. Many times I never even checked to see the responses to my last arguments, just posted them and stopped, just 'cuz I didn't feel like continuing, no matter how well I was doing.
Originally posted by carver9
Let's come to an agreement then so that when we debate Superman vs Hulk, both fts can be used. I will ignore what Jor-el said about Superman being amped if you also agree that Nul wasn't an amped Hulk. With that said, you can have Superman building a city and I will get Nul ripping adamantium with one hand along with Nul breaking Uru without showing a sign of struggling to achieve this.Is this a deal?
Originally posted by Newjak
It was stated the Blue Sun would have an affect on Superman and they didn't know how it would. From that point on you don't know how he was amped. Maybe it was just his speed that was amped, maybe he only got create Superman vision. Or maybe he got make things better vision and just flied around the city matter manipulating it. It's possible Jonathen Kent under the Blue Sun received a similar upgrade.Basically the whole environment was variable and not constant.
Now you want to show he wasn't amped show him doing something similar without being under a blue sun. That's generally a good indication.
And Nul was an amped version of WWH period.
And why was this stuff brought up?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman prints and delivers newspaper across metropolis too fast to be seen
Originally posted by abhilegend
Those are a lot of "maybe" and assumptions with nothing to support them. Would this helpOn a slight off topic, can anybody tell me the issue number of the comic this scan comes from?
Apparently this.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Apparently this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that canon to post crisis superman?
Can't tell ya. I had come across it searching Google Images. Was actually pretty easy. I'll PM you the link to the full blog(instead of just the cover) if you want, it apparently has some "objectionable material" so I don't want to post the link here(although I didn't notice any on the page, it could be the blog it's self).
So want the link?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't have any interest in proving nul is an amped wwh, so this bargain is useless for me. I don't really care for your opinion considering superman tbh.
Deal...Hulk can rip adamantium and Uru and Superman can build cities.
I don't care about your opinion involving Superman either...I don't think anyone cares tbh.
Originally posted by Delta1938Only example I can think of is Pieface doing it with Hallax's power. Not a standard Green Lantern.
So, Green Lanterns are Skyfather-level? 'Cuz I know at least one example of a GL creating a planet, and I've seen them pull-off superior feats.You seem like you simply don't know what you're talking about. Oh yeah, and let's see proof that Bizarro, ANY Bizarro, has Kryptonian DNA. C'Mon, you made the claim. Back it up, [B]SON
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Maybe I'm dusty on post-Crisis, pre-Flashpoint Bizarro but I was under the impression that he was cloned from Superman.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Only example I can think of is Pieface doing it with Hallax's power. Not a standard Green Lantern.Maybe I'm dusty on post-Crisis, pre-Flashpoint Bizarro but I was under the impression that he was cloned from Superman.
No, Kyle created a planet during OUR WORLDS AT WAR and has better feats than that.
As for Bizarro, yes, you're dusty on him. As far as I'm aware, NO version of Bizarro has ever been an actual clone of Superman. The first Post-CRISIS Bizarro was an imperfect duplication created from scanning Superman's physical structure, but because he wasn't human they weren't able to properly copy him, but it had nothing to do with obtaining a genetic sample from Superman. Second Post-CRISIS Bizarro, I'm not sure what he was, I only saw one issue, and Lois was wondering if he was from the same project that created the first(looked and acted the same, except he knew Clark was Superman). The third one(unless there's another I haven't heard of) was created by Joker when he had Mxy's powers during the EMPEROR JOKER storyline. Carver, like usual, has no idea what he's talking about.
I can see you getting the impression that Bizarro was a clone if you don't follow Superman, but Carver straight-up claimed Bizarro was like he knew. In the comic Superman DOES mention Bizarro being an "imperfect clone," but he was explaining to Martha what Bizarro is after Bizarro took Jonathon off to another planet. It'd be easier and less stressful for her to be told he's an "imperfect clone" than "A duplicate of me created when that psycho my friend Bruce faces had the power to reshape reality through-out the entire universe." Bizarro in the storyline has ice vision and fire breath, so it's Emperor Joker's Bizarro.
