Originally posted by abhilegendWhen did I ever say tanking a black hole proves anything. In comics all of this stuff doesn't carry over it just doesn't. It's how they match up against each other.
So, it was created to kill thanos and it failed. What's so awesome about it? Nope, some are PC which are canon to gls, some are post crisis and the one with modern art was from GL:recharge. I wasn't talking about those feats, I was talking about how tanking black holes is no big deal.
Originally posted by dmillsTo me it's ignoring 99 percent of his showings in favor of a few feats. I won't ever argue that way. Too cbrish for me.
And that's the eternal conundrum when debating about the Flashes. One would basically have to argue that every instance of them being tagged is PIS. Funnily enough, quite a bit of it does involve some sort of plot device type shyte.Personally I generally stay away from debates involving KMC Flash.
Originally posted by StoicBut it did some serious damage though. Did you know that a double black hole did absolutely nothing to Superman?
^ Oh boy. You do know that a black hole was unable to crush Thanos right?
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I ever say tanking a black hole proves anything. In comics all of this stuff doesn't carry over it just doesn't. It's how they match up against each other.To me it's ignoring 99 percent of his showings in favor of a few feats. I won't ever argue that way. Too cbrish for me.
Over 99% of flash showings doesn't have him getting tagged by much slower enemies. So we are not ignoring 99% of his showings in a favor of a few feats. Rather you are.
Originally posted by h1a8
But it did some serious damage though. Did you know that a double black hole did absolutely nothing to Superman?
Like Dmills said it really depends on the writer. Marvel tends to use them as incredible forces in the universe as they should be. Black holes in the Marvel U take the approach that not even light can escape their pull, and that any matter trapped within them would be crushed into sub atomic particles. DC seems to regard them as they would a freakish thunder storm. After all it took far less than a black hole to put Superman on his back, or beat the tar out of a rookie Green Lantern. What Thanos survived was hell, and we all know that Thanos can survive a hell of a lot more than a rookie Green Lantern can, based on what we have seen on panel.
Originally posted by Stoic
Like Dmills said it really depends on the writer. Marvel tends to use them as incredible forces in the universe as they should be. Black holes in the Marvel U take the approach that not even light can escape their pull, and that any matter trapped within them would be crushed into sub atomic particles. DC seems to regard them as they would a freakish thunder storm. After all it took far less than a black hole to put Superman on his back, or beat the tar out of a rookie Green Lantern. What Thanos survived was hell, and we all know that Thanos can survive a hell of a lot more than a rookie Green Lantern can, based on what we have seen on panel.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Really, you never saw terrax living in a black hole in fear of galactus or surfer fighting red shift in a black hole? Tell me more about these awesome marvel black holes?
It's obvious that the one Thanos survived was far greater than the one that Terrax lived in. That story was also very poorly written. You are speaking of the one that Dazzler becomes the Herald of Galactus correct? That story was so bad, that I question if it is canon.
You aren't suggesting that a Lantern is a match for Thanos are you? nonetheless a Rookie Lantern at that. DC tends to regard black holes the way that Marvel regards freakish storms. The couple of times that Marvel may have regarded a black hole as a place that a sentient could kick back and watch tv should be regarded as poor writing. If you're logic held any weight in this particular situation, a Rookie GL, or Superman himself would use Galactus as a welcome mat.
Originally posted by Stoic
It's obvious that the one Thanos survived was far greater than the one that Terrax lived in. That story was also very poorly written. You are speaking of the one that Dazzler becomes the Herald of Galactus correct? That story was so bad, that I question if it is canon.You aren't suggesting that a Lantern is a match for Thanos are you? nonetheless a Rookie Lantern at that. DC tends to regard black holes the way that Marvel regards freakish storms. The couple of times that Marvel may have regarded a black hole as a place that a sentient could kick back and watch tv should be regarded as poor writing. If you're logic held any weight in this particular situation, a Rookie GL, or Superman himself would use Galactus as a welcome mat.
It should be noted the size of the black hole matters, just like the size of an explosion. The size and destructive power of a black hole is related to its mass in the singularity. The greater the mass, the greater space-time is warped and ripped, and hence bigger the black hole. The black hole Thanos tanked was 4 light years in diameter. That is super massive, enough to engulf countless solar systems. Just food for thought.
Originally posted by vince_slice
It should be noted the size of the black hole matters, just like the size of an explosion. The size and destructive power of a black hole is related to its mass in the singularity. The greater the mass, the greater space-time is warped and ripped, and hence bigger the black hole. The black hole Thanos tanked was 4 light years in diameter. That is super massive, enough to engulf countless solar systems. Just food for thought.
Nice.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Got any proof that the black hole which was used for thanos was superior to that in which terrax lived instead of "OH NOES, ITS THANOS". I don't like a lot of stories, doesn't makes them non canon. You're completely missing my point, you stated that a black hole was unable to crush thanos like it was some super-duper feat which its not. Surfer regularly and casually walks in black holes, BRB has endured black holes etc. Its the same in both companies, black holes are jobbers in both dc and marvel.
The idea that Thanos has taken more damage on panel than a GL rookie is proof enough. For the black hole to have done that amount of damage to Thanos simply means that Superman and a rookie GL would have been in loads of trouble. I'm not sure if you are trying to low ball Thanos. I'm not trying to prop him up, but he has his durability feats, and on average they are a good deal greater than even big blues.
Thanos has survived blackholes. We've also seen him say "let's gtfoh because a singularity is beginning to form" during Annihilation: Silver Surfer. Neither instance is contradictory. It just means that he can deal if need be, he just would rather avoid it altogether which quite honestly is right in line with the character's persona. Thanos is generally an efficient dude that while insanely powerful, he often takes the path of least resistance to get the job done.
Think of it like this. You're a professional boxer hanging out at say, a bar having a few drinks with a nice young lady (or dude if that's your thing) when "too much to drink guy" starts making trouble harassing you etc. You, as a pro boxer, are comfortable in the knowledge that if need be you could kick this guy's ass, but then you'd have to deal with the hassle of the fight itself, bar security, maybe law enforcement gets involved and of course, inevitably, the lawyers. Rather then deal with that hassle you maybe just laugh the guy off, call security or better yet just leave with the chick. All better options then dealing with the hassle of a bar fight.
Originally posted by vince_slice
It should be noted the size of the black hole matters, just like the size of an explosion. The size and destructive power of a black hole is related to its mass in the singularity. The greater the mass, the greater space-time is warped and ripped, and hence bigger the black hole. The black hole Thanos tanked was 4 light years in diameter. That is super massive, enough to engulf countless solar systems. Just food for thought.
I'm no astrophysicist, but I'm guessing a real black hole with a singularity 4 light years across would engulf the universe. Or at least a galaxy.
A little research on wikipedia shows a "Supermassive" black hole has a size of ~0.001–10 AU
1 light-year ≈ 63241 AU
4 light-years ≈ 252964 AU
In other words, this black hole is equal to ~25,296 to 252,964,000 times larger than a "Supermassive" black hole.
😂
Originally posted by Cogito
I'm no astrophysicist, but I'm guessing a real black hole with a singularity 4 light years across would engulf the universe. Or at least a galaxy.A little research on wikipedia shows a "Supermassive" black hole has a size of ~0.001–10 AU
1 light-year ≈ 63241 AU
4 light-years ≈ 252964 AUIn other words, this black hole is equal to ~25,296 to 252,964,000 times larger than a "Supermassive" black hole.
😂
Well jeeze, that just makes Thanos that much more beastly.
Originally posted by Cogito
I'm no astrophysicist, but I'm guessing a real black hole with a singularity 4 light years across would engulf the universe. Or at least a galaxy.A little research on wikipedia shows a "Supermassive" black hole has a size of ~0.001–10 AU
1 light-year ≈ 63241 AU
4 light-years ≈ 252964 AUIn other words, this black hole is equal to ~25,296 to 252,964,000 times larger than a "Supermassive" black hole.
😂
Damn.
Originally posted by Cogito
I'm no astrophysicist, but I'm guessing a real black hole with a singularity 4 light years across would engulf the universe. Or at least a galaxy.A little research on wikipedia shows a "Supermassive" black hole has a size of ~0.001–10 AU
1 light-year ≈ 63241 AU
4 light-years ≈ 252964 AUIn other words, this black hole is equal to ~25,296 to 252,964,000 times larger than a "Supermassive" black hole.
😂
I didn't mean to imply the singularity was 4 light years wide because that's impossible and just insane. Thanos isn't that beastly. The comic stated everything within a 2 light year radius (4 light year diameter) was instantly sucked in. Keep in mind this isn't necessarily the event horizon, which is likely to be bigger.
Originally posted by vince_slice
😂I didn't mean to imply the singularity was 4 light years wide because that's impossible and just insane. Thanos isn't that beastly. The comic stated everything within a 2 light year radius (4 light year diameter) was instantly sucked in. Keep in mind this isn't necessarily the event horizon, which is likely to be bigger.
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Originally posted by vince_slice
😂I didn't mean to imply the singularity was 4 light years wide because that's impossible and just insane. Thanos isn't that beastly. The comic stated everything within a 2 light year radius (4 light year diameter) was instantly sucked in. Keep in mind this isn't necessarily the event horizon, which is likely to be bigger.
Yeah but for everything within 2 lightyears to be instantly sucked in still would require the singularity to be larger then a super massive black hole. Much larger.
Originally posted by dmills
Yeah but for everything within 2 lightyears to be instantly sucked in still would require the singularity to be larger then a super massive black hole. Much larger.
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