Originally posted by Delta1938
I dunno if it's true, but I read somewhere that PC Validus once nearly crushed PC Superboy AND Mon-El to death.....by accident. He didn't even know they were there.If this is true, what has SA Mangog done for you to think he could compete?
The fact that Classic Odin (a bonafide galaxy buster) had to use plot device spell work, often with aid, to beat SA Mangog, and it wound up causing him to die or come extremely close to death at one time, too.
Physically, I don't think he was as strong as some of these PC characters best showings, but he amped off of physical violence and the emotion of hate, and was only beaten through plot device and the intervention of one of the most powerful skyfathers in comics. I don't see him being put down easily.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The fact that Classic Odin (a bonafide galaxy buster) had to use plot device spell work, often with aid, to beat SA Mangog, and it wound up causing him to die or come extremely close to death at one time, too.Physically, I don't think he was as strong as some of these PC characters best showings, but he amped off of physical violence and the emotion of hate, and was only beaten through plot device and the intervention of one of the most powerful skyfathers in comics. I don't see him being put down easily.
After learning that, I now do think anybody on the DC team can solo. They might not be able to KO this Mangog, but BFR wasn't ruled out as an option in the OP. It looks like WB Hulk is the only one who can POTENTIALLY be a threat to harm the DC side, and he can be killed accidentally.
Also, did Mangog show any great resistant to telepathic attack? Validus had potent mind blasts.
Originally posted by Delta1938
After learning that, I now do think anybody on the DC team can solo. They might not be able to KO this Mangog, but BFR wasn't ruled out as an option in the OP. It looks like WB Hulk is the only one who can POTENTIALLY be a threat to harm the DC side, and he can be killed accidentally.Also, did Mangog show any great resistant to telepathic attack? Validus had potent mind blasts.
Classic Odin had quite a few potent telepathy based feats under his belt, and really nothing he did outside of random plot device spells/rituals could beat Mangog. He hadn't displayed an overt telepathic resistance feat, but given that Odin was fully convinced that in a direct confrontation, Mangog was a universal threat and unstoppable even by his standards, it's open to debate whether or not such a route would have effected him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Classic Odin had quite a few potent telepathy based feats under his belt, and really nothing he did outside of random plot device spells/rituals could beat Mangog. He hadn't displayed an overt telepathic resistance feat, but given that Odin was fully convinced that in a direct confrontation, Mangog was a universal threat and unstoppable even by his standards, it's open to debate whether or not such a route would have effected him.
Never heard Odin had telepathy. Could you give some of these feats? Scans would be appreciated.
Originally posted by psycho gundamThe difference is the shit he says is stupid and the shit I say is based off of years of reading comics.
it just looks like hypocricy when you get mad at carver for saying the same shitjust sayin
No one on team 2 can beat anybody on team 1. Not for a majority anyway. Mangog is the only one that makes it s fight
Originally posted by Delta1938
Never heard Odin had telepathy. Could you give some of these feats? Scans would be appreciated.
Yeah, I can cite some feats now and look for actual scans later.
When Loki invaded modern day Earth, he managed to cast a spell on Thor that made him go bad and attack other heroes such as the Fantastic Four (in which he almost killed the Thing). After coming to his senses, he beat Loki, and Odin agreed to reverse the damage done and erase everyone's mind on Earth in doing so.
There was another instance where he took the subconscious mind of humanity and moved them to an alternate dimension.
Of course, the origin of how Thor came to Earth could be considered a telepathic feat for Odin as he removed Thor's memories and gave him the memories of a certain Donald Blake, which were in turn, based off of Keith Kincaid.
And just recently, Odin displayed telepathy in a psionic battle against Galactus.
SA Mangog would be the hard factor on this fight.I'm wondering if this Juggernaut is Kuurth who had the power of the Worthy and Cytorrak?If so, he can also be a hard factor for the Marvel bricks as this is Juggernaut with Thor's powers.Thing(Angrir) took down Red Hulk and we all know regular Thing would be reduced to pebbles in a straight out fight with Red Hulk.Replace WWH with Abomination(amped by Chaos King) and this will be a brawl.Still the Marvel bricks could stalemate the other team at least.