Pre-crisis Bricks Vs Marvel's Uber Bricks

Started by carver93 pages
Originally posted by Igniz
SA Mangog would be the hard factor on this fight.I'm wondering if this Juggernaut is Kuurth who had the power of the Worthy and Cytorrak?If so, he can also be a hard factor for the Marvel bricks as this is Juggernaut with Thor's powers.Thing(Angrir) took down Red Hulk and we all know regular Thing would be reduced to pebbles in a straight out fight with Red Hulk.Replace WWH with Abomination(amped by Chaos King) and this will be a brawl.Still the Marvel bricks could stalemate the other team at least.

You think Chaos King Abomination is more powerful than WBH?

Is this SA mangog?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog31.jpg

Color me un-impressed.

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The one you posted was actually modern age Mangog

Originally posted by carver9
You think Chaos King Abomination is more powerful than WBH?

Yes!Keyword is CK amped.If Ares under CK's ampage can withstand a blast from Galactus, no doubt CK amped Abomination will also withstand it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is this SA mangog?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog30.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog31.jpg

Color me un-impressed.

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😂 Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.

Originally posted by Igniz
Yes!Keyword is CK amped.If Ares under CK's ampage can withstand a blast from Galactus, no doubt CK amped Abomination will also withstand it.

😂 Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.

Surviving a blast from Galactus is a nice ft but Savage Hulk and even Rulk has done this.

That's not enough imo.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The one you posted was actually modern age Mangog

What's the difference?
Originally posted by Igniz
Yes!Keyword is CK amped.If Ares under CK's ampage can withstand a blast from Galactus, no doubt CK amped Abomination will also withstand it.

😂 Talk about h1 logic there.The answer is no.That Mangog is Thanos's Mangog.Which was far from the level of power SA Mangog displayed on his 1st and 2nd rampage.Though I will admit he was a threat to Thor.But SA Mangog was a threat to big bad Odin.


Hey, that was a low blow. Even in the silver age, mangog had extended fight with thor. Validus regularly punked entire LOSH.

Originally posted by carver9
Surviving a blast from Galactus is a nice ft but Savage Hulk and even Rulk has done this.

That's not enough imo.

Well considering regular Ares is not in Savage Hulk's or Rulk's league.Ares is only capable of lifting 75 tons or so.His durability isn't great since Sentry ripped him in half.And yet his punches were having an effect on SuperGod Herc as if he was class 100 all of a sudden and then surviving a blast from Galactus.Regular Ares wouldn't be able to do any of this.So CK provided a very massive amp.No doubt Abomination also received a massive Amp.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's the difference?

Hey, that was a low blow. Even in the silver age, mangog had extended fight with thor. Validus regularly punked entire LOSH.

Sorry.Didn't mean to low blow.And SA Mangog would probably do what Validus did as well.Odin died in the 2nd rampage by robbing SA Mangog of his power source.Do you believe the entire LOSH is = to Odin(who was stopping time and punking Skyfather levels such as Surtur).

This is all good and fine but how would they beat captain marvel? This guy was harnessing essentialy the power of big bang itself (sorta).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Pre crisis feats

Captain marvel vs Invincible Man

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Originally posted by Igniz
Sorry.Didn't mean to low blow.And SA Mangog would probably do what Validus did as well.Odin died in the 2nd rampage by robbing SA Mangog of his power source.Do you believe the entire LOSH is = to Odin(who was stopping time and punking Skyfather levels such as Surtur).

Based on? A single high herald has multiple extended fights with mangog while validus didn't even felt blows from several trans or higher level beings like superboy or Mon-el. Wasn't odin vastly weakened when mangog rampaged in asgard once and second time was in odinsleep? I remember odin dispersing mangog with a simple spell.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And henceforth I said stalemate if the Juggernaut in the picture was Kuurth with the power of Cytorrak and SA Mangog.The best the DC side could do is BFR.But I don't know if that is even possible.It took 3 Asgardians that included Thor to BFR current Mangog.So I'm guessing it would take more to BFR SA Mangog.The Worthies according to Modok's scans stated that the Worthies have powers similar to Thor when he scanned Thing(Angrir).And Kuurth before he was excomminicated by Cyttorak would have been amped to ridiculous levels.He probably possess teleportation.WBH would probably annoy one of the members in DC's side.But that's the only thing he could probably do.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on? A single high herald has multiple extended fights with mangog while validus didn't even felt blows from several trans or higher level beings like superboy or Mon-el. Wasn't odin vastly weakened when mangog rampaged in asgard once and second time was in odinsleep? I remember odin dispersing mangog with a simple spell.

The 1st rampage was Odin in his Odin sleep.Odin was able to dispell SA Mangog by resurrecting the race that birth him.The 2nd rampage, Odin needed the wells of Memer(I think?) and he had to teleport Asgard if I remember correctly.This is were Odin robbed SA Mangog of his power source.And I also remember in the 2nd rampage SA Mangog mentioning he becomes Stronger with every blow that he receives from his opponents.He feeds off of fear,hatred, and frustration.

Originally posted by Igniz
And henceforth I said stalemate if the Juggernaut in the picture was Kuurth with the power of Cytorrak and SA Mangog.The best the DC side could do is BFR.But I don't know if that is even possible.It took 3 Asgardians that included Thor to BFR current Mangog.So I'm guessing it would take more to BFR SA Mangog.The Worthies according to Modok's scans stated that the Worthies have powers similar to Thor when he scanned Thing(Angrir).And Kuurth before he was excomminicated by Cyttorak would have been amped to ridiculous levels.He probably possess teleportation.WBH would probably annoy one of the members in DC's side.But that's the only thing he could probably do.

Cap can easily BFR them in time stream or a different dimension. He was able to time travel with the help of rock of eternity which exists in all time and space simultaneously. You aren't feeling the difference between a pre-crisis kryptonian and an asgardian including thor. Validus went toe to toe with a sun eater which was destroying galaxies and was able to drive it off.

Originally posted by Igniz
The 1st rampage was Odin in his Odin sleep.Odin was able to dispell SA Mangog by resurrecting the race that birth him.The 2nd rampage, Odin needed the wells of Memer(I think?) and he had to teleport Asgard if I remember correctly.This is were Odin robbed SA Mangog of his power source.And I also remember in the 2nd rampage SA Mangog mentioning he becomes Stronger with every blow that he receives from his opponents.He feeds off of fear,hatred, and frustration.

So does he have any physical fight with odin or just statements that he is a threat to him? Doesn't everything in asgard a part of odinpower, I recall people arguing it in a recent thread? Odin was weakened in the second rampage IIRC. I've to check again.

Well I would think of it like this: Mangog was formed from the hate of every being in an entire galaxy.

Omega was formed from the hate of every being in the entire universe.

There are over 100 billion galaxies in the universe...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap can easily BFR them in time stream or a different dimension. He was able to time travel with the help of rock of eternity which exists in all time and space simultaneously. You aren't feeling the difference between a pre-crisis kryptonian and an asgardian including thor. Validus went toe to toe with a sun eater which was destroying galaxies and was able to drive it off.

Odin was also busting Galaxies and even owned a Galaxy buster like Surtur.Yet he died just trying to rob SA Mangog of his power source.I was even ask at one time if SA Mangog is skyfather level.So I gues this would put SA Mangog and PC Validus being equal since they have their fair share of fighting Galaxy busters.Is the Rock of Eternity allowed in this fight?If so, then BFR it is then.

Originally posted by Igniz
Odin was also busting Galaxies and even owned a Galaxy buster like Surtur.Yet he died just trying to rob SA Mangog of his power source.I was even ask at one time if SA Mangog is skyfather level.So I gues this would put SA Mangog and PC Validus being equal since they have their fair share of fighting Galaxy busters.Is the Rock of Eternity allowed in this fight?If so, then BFR it is then.

No, it doesn't. One was a physical fight and the other was a magical fight which has no bear on this fight. Had odin actually engaged mangog in a physical fight where he was busting galaxies, you'd have a point? Again what's best physical feat for mangog? It exists in all time and space, across all realities.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Never heard Odin had telepathy. Could you give some of these feats? Scans would be appreciated.

Odin was able to get into Galactus's head recently, in Mighty Thor #4, I believe.

Originally posted by abhilegend

WOW! When did Adam tank a universal blast?