Avengers Vs JLA (No Powers)

Originally posted by Prep-Man
This is just a street brawl. no power, ring, or super powers of of any kind.

[B]Bruce Banner
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I just looked back, and I change my mind: Banner ****ing soloes both team, in seconds.

This dude, with a I-Pod, can basically rape everything in sight. My guess is this: he's trashed around, fake of being knockout, then modify his cellphone, an finally open a can of whoop-ass on everyone.

Or Stark most likely can do it too. Maybe even faster. And harder.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I just looked back, and I change my mind: Banner ****ing soloes both team, in seconds.

This dude, with a I-Pod, can basically rape everything in sight. My guess is this: he's trashed around, fake of being knockout, then modify his cellphone, an finally open a can of whoop-ass on everyone.

Or Stark most likely can do it too. Maybe even faster. And harder.

Lol then Diana gets her mystical armour. And Tony gets his armour. And Aquaman gets his sonic blunderbuss. And Waterhand. And .....you see where this is going???

I think the OP wanted all of them in street clothes, H2H combat. Equipment NOT allowed.

DC wins. Clark takes out Thor, Hal takes out Stark and Banner, Aquaman and Diana take out Namor.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Not the same argument works here . thor was turned into a mortal and still carried a Huge adam. bull statue. The thing had to weigh tons easily. This is with no Asgardian physiololgy Thor is a brute however team marvel has 2 huge weak links banner and stark 🙁

Diana once fought the Goddess Diana while having no powers.

Even with him being really strong, Diana can manage.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol then Diana gets her mystical armour. And Tony gets his armour. And Aquaman gets his sonic blunderbuss. And Waterhand. And .....you see where this is going???

I think the OP wanted all of them in street clothes, H2H combat. Equipment NOT allowed.

DC wins. Clark takes out Thor, Hal takes out Stark and Banner, Aquaman and Diana take out Namor.

😱 😆 😂 🤣 Now that's some funny sh!t...
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bruce Banner? Really? C'mon.

If you use PAD's veriosn of Aqua he kicks in Namors widdlw winged feet.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
😱 😆 😂 🤣 Now that's some funny sh!t...
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Originally posted by Tony Stark
😱 😆 😂 🤣 Now that's some funny sh!t...
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Lol was it really that far fetched?

Aquaman is REASONABLY skilled at H2H. Diana is incredibly skilled. Together, they have a good chance of beating Namor. As mentioned by others, Clark is actually pretty handy with his fists, as is Hal.

Or do you see Tony beating Hal, and Thor beating Clark?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yet its mostly true...

I call bullsh!t... Clark isn't talking out THOR. Even without any powers THOR has thousands of years of combat skills and is still able to lift multiple tons. THOR solos. The others take notes.

Wait, what?

How does he manage to still press multiple tons without powers??

Are you giving him his Asgardian physiology?

Then why doesn't Clark get his Kryptonian physiology?

Originally posted by Tony Stark
I call bullsh!t... Clark isn't talking out THOR. Even without any powers THOR has thousands of years of combat skills and is still able to lift multiple tons. THOR solos. The others take notes.

Superman has over a thousand years of combat experience.

This is the thing that's stupid about the whole "No Powers" thing. At what point does something become a power? If you're 600 lbs with a straight backbone and no forearms to protect your hulking weight from crashing down on you, I call that a power. Any time something directly contradicts the laws of physics, you have yourself a power.

Again, that's the problem with these debates. It's easy to forgo certain things if it benefits your case.

But still, there's no way it can be said that Clark can win easily against Thor depowered. There's nothing cut and dry about that fight. More often than not I'd say stalemate if not giving the fight to Thor. And the dude saying Hal Jordan can take on tony and banner at the same time is really underrating tony. Stark CAN fight you know?

Yeah, I just took it to mean they're all human proportioned and sized. So whilst Thor is still 6"7 or whatever, he is built as that comics depict him but NOT literally 700lbs or whatever the handbooks give. Same with Clark etc. Otherwise, Diana without magical powers is just....clay.

So yes, Thor is the biggest guy on the field, followed by Clark. But neither of them are slow hulking brutes.

As for Stark/Banner and Hal, yes, I know Stark can fight - when he escaped from the Skrull ship during SEcret Invasion, for example. BUT I do see Hal beating him, and am totally ignoring Banner.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
But still, there's no way it can be said that Clark can win easily against Thor depowered. There's nothing cut and dry about that fight. More often than not I'd say stalemate if not giving the fight to Thor. And the dude saying Hal Jordan can take on tony and banner at the same time is really underrating tony. Stark CAN fight you know?

The biggest problem I see Clark Representing in his fight against Thor is a completely foreign Martial Art style. I honestly haven't seen much about Thor fighting sans hammer, so I couldn't say what he would do that outclasses the martial arts. Something tells me he's either a blunt force bludgeoner or fights akin to a pro wrestler. The point of Martial Arts is to defeat opponents larger than one's self. I'm not saying either one wins due to the fact that I don't know much about Thor without powers, though.

The weight wouldn't be the deciding factor, it's a nice excuse to say that Marvel wins because of their weak links, Bruce and Tony. Weight alone is nothing Thor build is similar to Clarks, and they would be quite even. No one would even argue that Thor stands a chance against Batman for example. The weight would be, without powers nothing else then fat. It's even impossible for a human being of Thors shape and Build to weight that much, an Asgardian yes, without powers no.

Originally posted by Blight
Hal Jordan could probably one shot Banner, it's about that simple.

The biggest problem I see Clark Representing in his fight against Thor is a completely foreign Martial Art style. I honestly haven't seen much about Thor fighting sans hammer, so I couldn't say what he would do that outclasses the martial arts. Something tells me he's either a blunt force bludgeoner or fights akin to a pro wrestler. The point of Martial Arts is to defeat opponents larger than one's self. I'm not saying either one wins due to the fact that I don't know much about Thor without powers, though.

I would class him as a brawler - but just because he's up against some fancy martial art, doesn't give Clark an auto-win. In a street fight, brawling can be pretty effective, it works. What DOES give Clark the edge is how his martial arts skills have been portrayed when he was depowered.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I would class him as a brawler - but just because he's up against some fancy martial art, doesn't give Clark an auto-win. In a street fight, brawling can be pretty effective, it works. What DOES give Clark the edge is how his martial arts skills have been portrayed when he was depowered.

Hal is quite a fighter
Takes down three thugs at once

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/6283d39b.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/993fc320.jpg

Just see it

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/a6efe2af.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/91dd72c6.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/18235725.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/13931a70.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/d4ade294.jpg

Again

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/62fe0835.jpg

Against an alien warlord

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/66dd7335.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/a6d0ad14.jpg

Back flips

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/5e656c3b.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/9e0fba79.jpg

I would just like to point out, no human being will ever beat a full grown Gorilla 😐

The Gorilla would basically rip the man in half no matter how bad ass they thought they were.

As for the fight, Thor is obviously the biggest and while most people will argue Superman isn't far behind skill wise I would still give the the nod to Thor.

Thor is more apt to rely on his warrior skill in fights.

As for Skill I would put Diana as the best. It's what she is most known for.

Then probably followed by Thor.

I think an argument could be made that Thor is the most dangerous character in the match due to him being the biggest and obviously still very fast.

Diana is right there though.

Obviously Tony and Bruce are the weakest links.

I'm gonna say Team DC wins.