Originally posted by Blight
Problem with that is that that could easily bring us to the realm of a Kryptonians DNA under yellow sun is still constituted as a normal kryptonian. Where do we draw the line? A marvel fan wants to draw the line at the point where Thor retains the majority of his strength while everyone else is at human Level. In which case the thread is spite and should be closed.
Completely agree. And others have also pointed-out that going by the "their normal physiology" argument, both Wonder Woman and Aquaman would still be superhuman. So on DC's side you'd have an at worst average Kryptonian(so Superman would be less powerful, but not to the degree Thor is), an Amazon(I think Hippolyta had threw a car a good distance with relative ease) and an Atlantean(I dunno how strong the average Atlantean is, but probably greater than Captain America), with an above average human in Hal.
So the Avengers side would have a what? 30 tonner in Thor? And Namor would be superhuman, but likely less than Aquaman since Namor's half human, and going by "normal physiology" would be more than human, but less than Atlantean, and then an average human in Tony and an arguably below average human in Bruce.
In that scenario, Superman alone stomps, while the rest cheerlead. I could even see Wonder Woman beating Thor with nerve strikes and stuff even if he's superhuman.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Best case you can make for Banner is that he'll snap somehow before being beaten into unconsciousness and go crazy and jump on someone's shoulders and start biting them and shit.
It's probably not canon, but I think the novel INCREDIBLE HULK: WHAT SAVAGE BEAST? would be a good indicator of how Bruce would fare. He ended-up getting pissed-off enough to go from Professor Hulk to Savage Banner, and ended-up in sewage or something. Betty found him, took him home, and forced him to take a shower. She had to actually start washing him, and he resisted and tried to get out. He said, "HULK STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!" and she said, "Not in here." And proved it, overpowering him. Then, they ended-up boinking.
On a side note, since Savage Banner is the Savage Hulk personality in Bruce Banner's body, and Savage Hulk's personality is Hulk's personality as a child, wouldn't that technically make Betty a pedophile?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Aquaman is genetically half-human, but it doesn't seem to affect him as much tbh.
(facepalm) 😮 I can't believe I forgot that. But you said it doesn't seem to effect him as much. Isn't Namor officially a mutant hybrid? If so, that would show why he's so much stronger, as well as his flight.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No powers.It's really simple. 😬
Everyone's strength, agility, speed, etc, is all reduced to peak human level, assuming that they've displayed that much while depowered like Thor or Diana or averagish human like Tony or Hal.
The problem in that is, that they aren't all humans. So can't put them all in that box. And the thread never stated that. I don't mean to piss in your cheerios.
Even base Kryptonians are waaaaay above base Asgardians . I mean, Kal is usually depicted above other Kryptonians, so its actually not inanalogous to compare him to Thor 's standing amongst other Asgardians.
Reply to Silent Master : he was only replying to Tony Starks inability to comprehend words and Marvel bias.
Originally posted by Silent Master
The OP said no powers.
Did you not read the posts I put before hand? Even if you didn't, reading comprehension FTL. If you DID read my other posts, well, then, even worse.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reply to Silent Master : he was only replying to Tony Starks inability to comprehend words and Marvel bias.
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even base Kryptonians are waaaaay above base Asgardians . I mean, Kal is usually depicted above other Kryptonians, so its actually not inanalogous to compare him to Thor 's standing amongst other Asgardians.Reply to Silent Master : he was only replying to Tony Starks inability to comprehend words and Marvel bias.
Now your speaking silly talk... Where are you getting your info on The average Kryptonians being waaaaaaay above average Asgardians...?
Please enlighten me.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Now your speaking silly talk... Where are you getting your info on The average Kryptonians being waaaaaaay above average Asgardians...?Please enlighten me.
Comics.
Average Kryptonian under a yellow sun can lift more than 30 tons. Look at Zod (ok, he had military training, but still).
Originally posted by Tony Stark
😆So Superman's been on the Earth and in combat for over 1000 years...?
I'm pretty sure that he arrived here as an infant in the 1930's.
That maths kinda fuzzy to me brother.
Its not fuzzy if you read comics. Superman and Wonder Woman got trapped in Asgard for 1000 years (Superman..#165? Correct me if I'm wrong) and they fought there for 1000 years before coming back to the main DCU reality.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Your pulling that out of your ass
Not really.
Thor's been depowered several times by my count in comics. Each time, he's displayed peak human strength, speed, etc. There had been no mention whatsoever of his weight slowing him down at all. So, by logic, either his Asgardian physique doesn't count against him making the argument he'd be slow and sluggish invalid or by being depowered, his increased mass is reduced to human standards.