Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Comics.Average Kryptonian under a yellow sun can lift more than 30 tons. Look at Zod (ok, he had military training, but still).
Most Kryptonians don't spend very much if any time under a yellow sun, so their normal strength would be whatever their strength is on Krypton.
Originally posted by Silent MasterMost kryptonians are dead, the ones that get written about typically spend it under a yellow sun and are nearly as strong as the Superfamily.
Most Kryptonians don't spend very much if any time under a yellow sun, so their normal strength would be whatever their strength is on Krypton.
Eurgh, look lol I'm not arguing about powerups or whatever.
My original point was that if they were all equalised to being humans, Clark would win against Thor. Not a stomp by any means, but its a fallacy to assume that Superman doesn't have any H2H skills.
For some reason, TonyStark (the poster) thinks that taking all the powers away from Thor means that he is a base line Asgardian - but for some reason, we are not allowed to have Clark as a baseline Kryptonian.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Or Wonderwoman as an Amazon, or Aquaman as an atlantean, lol.
Eurgh, look lol I'm not arguing about powerups or whatever.My original point was that if they were all equalised to being humans, Clark would win against Thor. Not a stomp by any means, but its a fallacy to assume that Superman doesn't have any H2H skills.
For some reason, TonyStark (the poster) thinks that taking all the powers away from Thor means that he is a base line Asgardian - but for some reason, we are not allowed to have Clark as a baseline Kryptonian.
So as per OP:
Thor vs Clark
Namor vs Arthur
Tony vs Hal
Bruce vs Diana.
Diana one shots Bruce, and helps Hal out. They beat Tony, then help Arthur out. Then they dogpile Thor. I really cannot see how Marvel win with these numbers and skills disadvantage (Banner, I'm looking at you). To argue otherwise is...biased?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Doesn't stomp Clark, though I may give him the nod. Lex trained with some of the top martial artists[not like Bruce Wayne's group of trainers mind you, but black belts and champions] as well as Amazons, and Clark whooped him pretty good while powerless. Point being that Hal probably beats Tony fairly quickly, and Diana fingerjabs Banner to the floor in a second's notice.
No doubt, he DOES have H2H skills....but would it be a stomp? All Clark needs is to delay him long enough for Diana to one shot Banner, then they can both go against him.
Originally posted by JayDaDonOld Krypton was under a Red Sun, a depowerment.
Just a question about that kryptonian argument, wouldn't the yellow sunlight be considered an amp/power for a kryptonian? I mean they "normally"(on krypton at least) don't have any powers at all right?
Originally posted by Tony Stark
😆So Superman's been on the Earth and in combat for over 1000 years...?
I'm pretty sure that he arrived here as an infant in the 1930's.
That maths kinda fuzzy to me brother.
He actually does have over a thousand years combat experience, from when he was transported to DC's asgard and fought in a war that lasted a thousand years. He was only returned to his own time once he (wielding mjolnir) had vanquished the enemy.
How about you assume less, as you know what it does.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Old Krypton was always under a red sun, so I'd hardly call that a depowerment.I wasn't aware of "New Krypton' being under a yellow sun, how many people are currently on NK?
There were 100,000 before Lex blew it up.