You know there are some drawings online that show artist's conceptions of what the sun would look like from the various planets, i.e Mercury, Venus, based on scientific measurements. So you could look at those and get an idea of how close he was, if the sun appeared bigger than it did in the view from Mercury than he was closer than Mercury.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
You can't disagree.If we can't find a minimum for something, then its becomes unquantifiable.
We don't know how fast that words would be going, so we have to go by our timeframe as the minimum.
I agree with that in principle, but not at the expense of logic. For the scene to make a lick of sense we have to take it from the sphinx's perspective. If not, soooo many things fall apart. He's still shouting no as the transformation takes place the moment the gem hits the sun. That would significant that the two things are happening concurrently. Nova arrives back from space and says "yes". Which means that he heard him. In my eyes it only makes sense if Nova returned in time to hear the nooo as it was fading out as the transformation was completed.
Here's the scene
In the third panel Rider is flying off with the stone and we see the Sphinx; Mouth agape, arm streched out to grab at Nova while yelling no! Note that you also see the power surge in his eyes. In the 5th panel he's mouth is still agape yelling noooo! even as the stone is hurled into the sun and the transformations clearly begins.
Now continued in the second page Nova is back and says "yes". Notice that the sphinx is still in the exact same position, mouth still agape in horror? The power surge in his eyes is even still present which indicates to me that the transformation was relatively fast. Perhaps nigh instantaneous as if being frozen in place.
Looking at that sequence there's no way that it was meant to depict any significant passage of time. Not even 11 seconds. It's a scene meant to be depicted concurrently imo.
Originally posted by dmillsI'm sorry, but that is taking a pretty big leap of faith.
Here's the sceneIn the third panel Rider is flying off with the stone and we see the Sphinx; Mouth agape, arm streched out to grab at Nova while yelling no! Note that you also see the power surge in his eyes. In the 5th panel he's mouth is still agape yelling noooo! even as the stone is hurled into the sun and the transformations clearly begins.
Now continued in the second page Nova is back and says "yes". Notice that the sphinx is still in the exact same position, mouth still agape in horror? The power surge in his eyes is even still present which indicates to me that the transformation was relatively fast. Perhaps nigh instantaneous as if being frozen in place.
Looking at that sequence there's no way that it was meant to depict any significant passage of time. Not even 11 seconds. It's a scene meant to be depicted concurrently imo.
First of all, As fast as Nova is, he is barely out of arm's reach of the Sphinx, when he grabs the stone.
Then, Nova is speaking throughout the panels and Sphinx did have time to drop his arm and change his body posture.
And, it seems like Sphinx petrified as soon as the stone hit the sun. That is why he is still in that pose. Not because of Nova's speed. There is no telling how long he was frozen there.
There is just no way to put an actual speed value on the feat. For all we know, Spinx could have gone and gotten a couple hamburgers and was eating by the time Nova returned.
It's a tough call.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm sorry, but that is taking a pretty big leap of faith.First of all, As fast as Nova is, he is barely out of arm's reach of the Sphinx, when he grabs the stone.
Then, Nova is speaking throughout the panels and Sphinx did have time to drop his arm and change his body posture.
And, it seems like Sphinx petrified as soon as the stone hit the sun. That is why he is still in that pose. Not because of Nova's speed. There is no telling how long he was frozen there.
There is just no way to put an actual speed value on the feat. For all we know, Spinx could have gone and gotten a couple hamburgers and was eating by the time Nova returned.
It's a tough call.
There's no leap at all and honestly I'm surprised that this is even debatable. It literally is the only way to have a logically consistent grasp of the scene. Your only other options are
A) The sphinx stood there staring at the sky in the same position yelling or whatever until Nova reached the sun.
B) He left, Got a hamburger, 😛 and then returned to the same spot a few hours later and resumed yelling once Nova got to the sun.
C) I can't even think of another tbh lol. Maybe it was not nigh instantaneous. A few moments went by etc.
Sorry man but It's not really a tough call at all imo.
Originally posted by dmills
There's no leap at all and honestly I'm surprised that this is even debatable. It literally is the only way to have a logically consistent grasp of the scene. Your only other options areA) The sphinx stood there staring at the sky in the same position yelling or whatever until Nova reached the sun.
B) He left, Got a hamburger, 😛 and then returned to the same spot a few hours later and resumed yelling once Nova got to the sun.
C) I can't even think of another tbh lol. Maybe it was not nigh instantaneous. A few moments went by etc.
Sorry man but It's not really a tough call at all imo.
