Ares (Wrath of the Titans) vs. Darth Vader (ROTS)

Started by quanchi1125 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Ares lost, deal. No fantasizing from you won't change that.

Steel? Proof? Cos I recall in Ep1, QuiGon used a lightsabre to melt through massive blast-doors. So again, you fail.

Non Sequitor, as typical. Vader's better than as his Padawan self, which is what you were trying to say; he's better than Ares as well. Deal.

Only in your fanboy fantasies.

Ares lost but you're ignoring the context of how he lost. He would slaughter Perseus in a forum setting you neanderthal.

So one showing where it cuts through one where it doesn't. I don't see it killing Ares whose damage soak is tremendous. Ares wins.

Originally posted by Nephthys
'Steel'? You think they still use steel in star wars? In a space-age setting?
Yes, why not ?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What you believe doesn't really matter.
Sure it does, sparky.


Akuma has destroyed islands, mountains, sunken ships at the bottom of the ocean, forests, and volcanoes with his own power. I don't actually need a calculator to know how impressive that is. [/B]
So what he punches street fighter opponents who aren't as durable as islands yet they don't even lose their heads so it doesn't add up. You don't need a calculator to figure that out. Maybe you do though. Laughs.

And don't be buttmad just because you aren't actually smart enough to know how to operate a calculator, let alone quantify a feat. [/B]
It doesn't add up unless you think every street fighter characters is more durable than an island. Please say yes.


Prove this statement. While I am sure some writers don't, like the writers of Immortals, you can't prove that all writers don't. [/B]
I have posted Kurt Busiek's answer on his own message board explaining how most artists and writers just draw something big and epic while not factoring in a weight. He also laughed at fans using Spiderman's highest feats as his standard. He laughs at people like you. So do I.

Akuma's peers in the Street Fighter verse tend to have similarly impressive feats when they get them. Bison tanked a nuke and can destroy cities, Gill split an ocean with a gesture, Gouken has leveled mountains while fighting Akuma. [/B]
Again, it doesn't add up. Just like in Immortals Poseidon's feat meant crap when he engaged the Titans.

So... No, you're wrong. Some writers definitely do, hell, most writers do, considering a lot of feats do in fact take place during battles, naturally.

Haha, no.

Good. [/B]

Post proof some writers do. You can't. It doesn't add up either way. This should be common sense, boy.


Quan, allow me to explain something to you about forum-bashing: Only insult someone based on what you know to be true. While yes, I call you an idiot (Rightfully so), I do so only in the context of versus debating and base my insults off of your demonstrated tomfoolery in the forum, not based on anything that is speculation, such as your love life, or whatever.

For you to respond to my allegations of your stupidity with insults of my off-computer life, which you can only guess at, you look like a doofus who can't base his insults on what he knows of me; a petty loser who can't come up with anything better. Bash what you know, not what you speculate.

Do try harder girlfriend.

I am much cooler than you though.

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Quit crying. You started something I ended it. I'm your superior in every way.

This is a pretty epic thread. 😂

Originally posted by the ninjak
This is a pretty epic thread. 😂
This thread belongs to Ares.

I watched the fight scene with Ares and Perseus again.

Perseus actually stabbed Ares with a weapon besides the Zuesbolt before the weakening blow.

What was the weapon?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sure it does, sparky.

Afraid not.

So what he punches street fighter opponents who aren't as durable as islands yet they don't even lose their heads so it doesn't add up. You don't need a calculator to figure that out. Maybe you do though. Laughs.

You are aware that Akuma almost always holds back in fights, right?

And prove that those he punches seriously are not as durable as islands. Considering at least one has survived nuke bombardments, and Gouken survived the Hadoken barrage that leveled a mountain range (As did Akuma).

It doesn't add up unless you think every street fighter characters is more durable than an island. Please say yes.

I wasn't aware that every Street Fighter character has fought Akuma at all, let alone fought a serious Akuma.

I have posted Kurt Busiek's answer on his own message board explaining how most artists and writers just draw something big and epic while not factoring in a weight. He also laughed at fans using Spiderman's highest feats as his standard. He laughs at people like you. So do I.

Akuma's feats are entirely consistent (I am using the Akuma example because it fits so well and you have argued against him in the past).

Also, why should I give a **** about what Kurt Busiek says? Or about what comic writers/artists do? I am speaking of fiction on a whole, not comic books.

Again, it doesn't add up. Just like in Immortals Poseidon's feat meant crap when he engaged the Titans.

Citing badly-written movies doesn't help your case. And yes, make no mistakes, Immortals is a badly written movie, in the same vein that many Hollywood blockbusters are.

Post proof some writers do. You can't. It doesn't add up either way. This should be common sense, boy.

Superman and Wonder Woman are often shown to be faster than light. In a fight they went from the Earth to the sun in, oh, I think a little over a minute. That's faster than light. For an example you may be aware of.

You are aware that your argument really only works in terms of comics, right? I mean, I will admit to using it when discussing Superman vs. Superboy Prime, on who is stronger. Despite Superman's few really high level feats, that doesn't change the fact that Superboy Prime is consistently portrayed as much more powerful when they come to blows.

In a battle between two separates series though, the "portrayal" argument doesn't work. There are fictions where a mook in one series could beat the shit out of the strongest character in another. That's why feats are used.

Also, you don't appear to know what "common sense" means. Common sense dictates that a character who can punch apart landmasses could easily beat a character who can't output nearly as much power.

Quit crying. You started something I ended it. I'm your superior in every way.

You should probably start showing it then.

I will admit that my comments which provoked this silly charade were unnecessary and I apologise for them, but at this point I am only attempting to educate you and show you my point of view on how versus battles must be carried out, perhaps you should do the same, rather than continue down a futile flamewar, hm?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Afraid not.
Don't you ever tire of being wrong ?


You are aware that Akuma almost always holds back in fights, right?[/B]
So that means he never hits wit his full force meaning it;s out of character to use his feats ina standard versus matchup. Progress I suppose.

And prove that those he punches seriously are not as durable as islands. Considering at least one has survived nuke bombardments, and Gouken survived the Hadoken barrage that leveled a mountain range (As did Akuma). [/B]
Just like the Poseidon feat in Immortals it's fiction it doesn't have to make logical sense. It isn't supposed to.


I wasn't aware that every Street Fighter character has fought Akuma at all, let alone fought a serious Akuma.[/B]
He holds back so you destroyed your own argument.

Akuma's feats are entirely consistent (I am using the Akuma example because it fits so well and you have argued against him in the past). [/B]

Out of character.

Also, why should I give a **** about what Kurt Busiek says? Or about what comic writers/artists do? I am speaking of fiction on a whole, not comic books.
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That's someone who handled comics which fall under fiction. I guarantee most writers have the same philosophy. I gave an opinion you have yet to do so. Provide proof that supports your viewpoints.


Citing badly-written movies doesn't help your case. And yes, make no mistakes, Immortals is a badly written movie, in the same vein that many Hollywood blockbusters are.
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Street fighter mythos flat out sucks. I mean it's horrendous. No one plays it for the story because there really isn't one. Again everything supports my viewpoint while nothing supports your own.


Superman and Wonder Woman are often shown to be faster than light. In a fight they went from the Earth to the sun in, oh, I think a little over a minute. That's faster than light. For an example you may be aware of.[/B]
And your point is ? That doesn't mean everything has a mathematical number you can attach it to. That's also one example. I never said there weren't any examples. In infinite crisis Superman can't keep up with Superboy Prime who is just traveling at the speed of light.

You are aware that your argument really only works in terms of comics, right? I mean, I will admit to using it when discussing Superman vs. Superboy Prime, on who is stronger. Despite Superman's few really high level feats, that doesn't change the fact that Superboy Prime is consistently portrayed as much more powerful when they come to blows.[/B]
No, it works in all areas of fiction. feats aren't the end all be all you think they are.

In a battle between two separates series though, the "portrayal" argument doesn't work. There are fictions where a mook in one series could beat the shit out of the strongest character in another. That's why feats are used.

Also, you don't appear to know what "common sense" means. Common sense dictates that a character who can punch apart landmasses could easily beat a character who can't output nearly as much power.
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No, you have it all wrong. Just because Spiderman lifts a car in one arc that isn't his standard strength. You take the highest feats and act like they are the standard. It's horrible.

You should probably start showing it then.

I will admit that my comments which provoked this silly charade were unnecessary and I apologise for them, but at this point I am only attempting to educate you and show you my point of view on how versus battles must be carried out, perhaps you should do the same, rather than continue down a futile flamewar, hm? [/B]

I only respond in kind. I typically don't like to turn this into a dick measuring contest but when the moment strikes I pull out the ruler.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ares lost but you're ignoring the context of how he lost. He would slaughter Perseus in a forum setting you neanderthal.

So one showing where it cuts through one where it doesn't. I don't see it killing Ares whose damage soak is tremendous. Ares wins.

Incorrect, I am not. Yes, Perseus would, as Ares wouldn't pause. That doesn't matter as Ares loses here in a forum match to Vader, as shown. Ares ends up headless.

LoL, go on and stick with a lightsabre 'not being able to cut through steel', shows how delusional you can get when you want a new favorite character of yours to win a match.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect, I am not. Yes, Perseus would, as Ares wouldn't pause. That doesn't matter as Ares loses here in a forum match to Vader, as shown. Ares ends up headless.

LoL, go on and stick with a lightsabre 'not being able to cut through steel', shows how delusional you can get when you want a new favorite character of yours to win a match.

You haven't shown Vader has the power to decapitate Ares.

That happened in a star wars film. If you don't like it "tough" as they say. Ares wins.

Lightsabres have more than enough cutting feats. While Ares only has shown resistance to blunt force trauma, burden is on you. Not that you'll ever do it.

Yeah, you keep running with that. Lowest showing for who you want to see lose and masturbation for who you want see win.

Do we seriously have to prove that a lightsaber can cut through steel now? Thats just ridiculous, a lightsaber turned a foot-thick blast-door into molten magma. And if Quan is using the railing feat then he seems to be conveniently forgetting that in the very same fight Vader throws his lightsaber and causes a catwalk to collapse by cutting through its supports about 5 minutes before Luke cuts off his metal hand.

And no Quan, they don't use steel in star wars, gtfo.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lightsabres have more than enough cutting feats. While Ares only has shown resistance to blunt force trauma, burden is on you. Not that you'll ever do it.

Yeah, you keep running with that. Lowest showing for who you want to see lose and masturbation for who you want see win.

What has Vader cut through which is comparable to Ares ?

I am simply bringing up a canon showing. I didn't make the movies. You acted like a sleeperhold would beat Ares. You're a fool's fool.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Do we seriously have to prove that a lightsaber can cut through steel now? Thats just ridiculous, a lightsaber turned a foot-thick blast-door into molten magma. And if Quan is using the railing feat then he seems to be conveniently forgetting that in the very next movie Vader throws his lightsaber and causes a catwalk to collapse by cutting through its supports about 5 minutes before Luke cuts off his metal hand.

And no Quan, they don't use steel in star wars, gtfo.

So we still have one showing where it fails to cut steel. That to me doesn't suggest it's ripping into Ares here. You can believe whatever you want you can't take the scene away. Lucas says it counts.

So you're going to ignore the countless times when its cut through space-age metal like paper in favor of one time it didn't with an unknown metal.

And you have to gall to accuse others of bias. 😬

Oh and:

YouTube video

3.43.

Luke cuts through a 'steel' railing. Boom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What has Vader cut through which is comparable to Ares ?

I am simply bringing up a canon showing. I didn't make the movies. You acted like a sleeperhold would beat Ares. You're a fool's fool.

Lightsabres can cut through massive blast-doors. What has Ares shown that points to some ability to resist extremely-massive amounts of heat and cutting? Poseidon was killed by having lava thrown at him and Ares died from being stabbed. Now dance for me.

Yet more clown-shoe from you. No, you're taking the lowest possible showings for who/what you want to see lose. Another strawman, I never said that like that, Ares was taken down in part by being choked out. Again, you didn't pay attention and just paid attention to the shiny stuff, like you did in Immortals.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So you're going to ignore the countless times when its cut through space-age metal like paper in favor of one time it didn't with an unknown metal.

And you have to gall to accuse others of bias. 😬

Oh and:

YouTube video

3.43.

Luke cuts through a 'steel' railing. Boom.

I never said it couldn't I just brought up the time it hasn't. You factor all showings in you don't ignore the ones you don't like. Laugh.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lightsabres can cut through massive blast-doors. What has Ares shown that points to some ability to resist extremely-massive amounts of heat and cutting? Poseidon was killed by having lava thrown at him and Ares died from being stabbed. Now dance for me.

Yet more clown-shoe from you. No, you're taking the lowest possible showings for who/what you want to see lose. Another strawman, I never said that like that, Ares was taken down in part by being choked out. Again, you didn't pay attention and just paid attention to the shiny stuff, like you did in Immortals.

Poseidon was killed by magical lava not just lava. The gods were ALSO WEAKENED. Context, kiddo.

Ares was stabbed. You know what stabbed means, right ? Or did he just go up and put him to sleep ? Do you seriously think these arguments through ?

Lol, 'magical lava.'

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said it couldn't I just brought up the time it hasn't. You factor all showings in you don't ignore the ones you don't like. Laugh.

And yet you use a single time when it didn't cut through a railing as proof that it wouldn't cut Ares.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Poseidon was killed by magical lava not just lava. The gods were ALSO WEAKENED. Context, kiddo.

Ares was stabbed. You know what stabbed means, right ? Or did he just go up and put him to sleep ? Do you seriously think these arguments through ?

"Magical lava", proof? How much heat does this "magical lava" produce? What a tool you are. Yes, I covered that pages ago, Ares was weakened along with the rest of the gods, that was a key point of the story and why Ares did what he did, you just didn't pay attention as usual. Lighsabre cuts his ass and he dies, such as he did in the film.

Yeah, I just said 'Ares died from being stabbed", you're slow. You didn't pay full attention to the fight though, just drooled and you apparently can't grasp what "in part" means. Choked-out; then stabbed to death. One came before the other; the first allowed Perseus to do the second. Pay attention.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, 'magical lava.'

And yet you use a single time when it didn't cut through a railing as proof that it wouldn't cut Ares.

I didn't see anything save a badass plot device do so. Seeing how the gods handled themselves in the movies I don't see Vader doing anything to any of them. Look at Hades in the first if you want teh feats or even from this one at the end.

I wish you were funnier.