Originally posted by Mindset
That was years ago.He has practiced with mages throughout time since then, including Morgana.
Honestly, lately his magic is more impressive than his tech.
Pretty much, if it wasn't for his armor, I'd forget he's a tech guy sometimes. The past 5+ years have mostly been about his magic with occasional use of machines.
Without any form of prep whatsoever I say Zatana. But even 2 mins worth of prep from doom and he takes it. I could see her storming Castle Doomstadt, taking him by surprise, and winning (Not giving her prep, just more like a sick em'! lol). But if he knows she's coming and knows her powerset, he will crush her.
He basically has common knowledge of Z: He knows she's a stage magician and he knows her spells aren't just tricks, but the real deal. She knows he's a magician/scientist who runs his own country. They're not prepped for each other, but they know who each other are.
Zatanna making a solo run on Castle Doomstadt would be akin to a suicide run.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He basically has common knowledge of Z: He knows she's a stage magician and he knows her spells aren't just tricks, but the real deal. She knows he's a magician/scientist who runs his own country. They're not prepped for each other, but they know who each other are.Zatanna making a solo run on Castle Doomstadt would be akin to a suicide run.
Lol, I was thinking more along the lines of randomly appearing (teleporting/whatever) in the throne room, not running through the gauntlet of the funhouse that is Castle Doom.
With the above though, I'd say that Doom's magic is more than enough to hold her at bay, and in the midst of battle he formulates a plan and disposes of her.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When Wanda went to Latveria for help, Doom offered to help her tap into the Life Force, which was prior to her meltdown, and at which time, Strange would have still been Sorcerer Supreme of Earth.
During Avengers Ddisassembled?
FYI, Strange was losing his power when he still had the title.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When Wanda went to Latveria for help, Doom offered to help her tap into the Life Force, which was prior to her meltdown, and at which time, Strange would have still been Sorcerer Supreme of Earth. It's from Avengers: Children's Crusade #7.
I call shenangians then as that was supposed to be during Avengers Disassembled and Strange wasn't weakened at that time and that was WAY before Doom's push in magic.
EDIT: Wait isn't the last panel a mention of how House of M ended? If so that is after Disassembled and that was when Strange started to lose his power
2ND edit: Yeah pretty sure that's the end of House of M, when Strange started to go downhill. Meh!
Originally posted by -K-M-
During Avengers Ddisassembled?FYI, Strange was losing his power when he still had the title.
Strange wasn't at the height of his "Classic" days during that period of time, but his power and status were still affirmed as being one of, if not the top magical practitioner of the mystic arts. That Strange was also certainly more formidable than the Strange we saw in World War Hulk and shortly after that.
In any case, Doom's magical abilities have been consistently portrayed as being far more significant than they were before, both in terms of power and his breadth of knowledge.
Originally posted by -K-M-
I call shenangians then as that was supposed to be during Avengers Disassembled and Strange wasn't weakened at that time and that was WAY before Doom's push in magic.
Doom's stint with the Nazareth was one of the first more recent pushes of Doom's sorcery, and during that time he was able to incapacitate Strange. According to Children's Crusade, Doom was the one ultimately responsible for pushing Wanda over the edge with his magic, and other stories have recently painted Doom as being one of the most powerful mages on the planet.