Dr. Doom versus Zatanna

Started by Konton6 pages

She can duel it out over time. She displayed impressive stamina and dexterity in her fight with her resurrected father, where she showed off her "reverse that guys last spell" over and over.

Originally posted by Konton
She can duel it out over time. She displayed impressive stamina and dexterity in her fight with her resurrected father, where she showed off her "reverse that guys last spell" over and over.

That was a great feat for Z.

I pretty much think that Zatanna wins this, and I'd vote for Magneto over Doom too.

You are a fool!

Originally posted by Konton
She can duel it out over time. She displayed impressive stamina and dexterity in her fight with her resurrected father, where she showed off her "reverse that guys last spell" over and over.

But it's not her stamina and dexterity that's in question when talking about the length of this fight. It's Doom's ability to find a way around that, or discover a weakness, or just mentally get the upper hand. He's better when it comes to strategy and he can think outside the box and find way to win.

How can Doom find a way past Zatanna's best spells? Who has he defeated on Z's level on the fly?

So, what are his mental defenses like? Zee's kinda got crazy mind magic that she's casually infected the JLA with (including Batman and the Martian Manhunter), managing to keep any of them even knowing.

Aside from his incredibly high willpower feats, his psi-blockers keep telepaths on the level of Emma Frost out of his mind.

Originally posted by Konton
So, what are his mental defenses like? Zee's kinda got crazy mind magic that she's casually infected the JLA with (including Batman and the Martian Manhunter), managing to keep any of them even knowing.

How is magic TP compared to the psi TP mutants have?

I don't think he'd have anything on hand that could disrupt her spells, what I was referring to is that what he has on him (his suit and tech + his magic) is enough for him to survive for sometime, long enough for him to get whatever he needs to finish the job. He could lure her into a place where magic doesn't work or retrieve one of his power stealing gadgets (these are just examples, I'm not trying to get specific, no clue where magic wouldn't work lol) but the point I'm trying to make is the more time Doom has, the more the fight goes his direction because his mind is MUCH greater than Zatanna's.

I doubt his suit would hold up to Z's most powerful spells. She did drop Starbreaker, an evolved Sun Eater once.

His suit + tech force fields + magic force fields...I think he could hold out for a bit.

FOOT DIVE!

Edited: But in all seriousness Doom at the height of magic could probably outplay Z easily. But on his norm showings with tech and everything else he should be able to take it.

I think they're pretty much equal in versatility. Sure, Doom has tech + sorcery, but that's not inherently more versatile than sorcery by itself, which has the potential to be infinite in the options it provides. Sort of like how Surfer wouldn't be much more versatile with herald-level power armor.

I think Doom has on average better defenses, and I think Zee has on average a higher level of power output. Which isn't to call either weak, but Zee's feats of timestopping Despero, knocking Sun Eaters and mindwiping heralds with ease spring to mind, as do Doom's sincere displays of armor durability, as well as his myriad of shields and contingency plans.

I think Zee wins, but I could be convinced either way, and I'd sooner draft Doom in a tourney or on my super-team.

Toss up. Good match.

It occurs to me that I've never seen Doom display serious all-purpose anti-magic tech and that that could swing my vote really easily.

I've seen him combine his sorcery and science to neat effect, and I'd love to see him do the reverse.

Make his suit into a techno-version of the soul sword.

Would be soooooo cool.

Do it, writers. Get on that.

Even with Doom's recent portrayal being an uber powerful magician (and probably having monster amounts of experience and knowledge being the apprentice of that marquis) he still doesn't have the raw showings of Zatanna as far as the potency of their spells go. I'd have to give it z still if this match just goes on a head to head magic-only battle.

However considering Doom can and should be able to at least withstand a few of z's spells, i'd have to give it to Doom if it turns into an anything goes sort of match. He'd have tech to back up his magic. Maybe even whup up the ovoid mind trick if it really turns desperate.

Originally posted by Philosophía
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Doom transforms into Batman.

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Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Even with Doom's recent portrayal being an uber powerful magician (and probably having monster amounts of experience and knowledge being the apprentice of that marquis) he still doesn't have the raw showings of Zatanna as far as the potency of their spells go. I'd have to give it z still if this match just goes on a head to head magic-only battle.

However considering Doom can and should be able to at least withstand a few of z's spells, i'd have to give it to Doom if it turns into an anything goes sort of match. He'd have tech to back up his magic. Maybe even whup up the ovoid mind trick if it really turns desperate.

It's not a magic-only battle.

Originally posted by Existere
I pretty much think that Zatanna wins this, and I'd vote for Magneto over Doom too.

😕

DOOM stomps Zatanna and Magneto together

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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DOOM stomps Zatanna and Magneto together

Battlezone match.

You take Doom.

I'll take Zatanna and Magneto.

Deal?