Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't. That trick has been used once on superman before by a far better telepath than a gl and he broke out from it. That was just a very low showing for JLA.
So has it been stated that GLs cannot duplicate kryptonite radiation? If so, where? To be honest, that kind of goes against everything I've ever read, but maybe I'm missing something.
Originally posted by Odekahn
So has it been stated that GLs cannot duplicate kryptonite radiation? If so, where? To be honest, that kind of goes against everything I've ever read, but maybe I'm missing something.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its been confirmed that they can't simulate the intrinsic properties of matter. They are just producing a hard light construct of that matter which isn't the real deal.
By who? Where? And what comic is it that states that a GL cannot simulate radiation at the frequency of kryptonite?
Originally posted by Odekahn
By who? Where? And what comic is it that states that a GL cannot simulate radiation at the frequency of kryptonite?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you read any gl comic since 2005? So I have to prove a negative? The better question would be what was the last time since a lantern produced anything besides a construct and fire green beams?
Lol. Yes, I've read many a GL comic since 2005. But you aren't answering my question. I want to know if it's something that has any backing or if you're just assuming.
Originally posted by Odekahn
So has it been stated that GLs cannot duplicate kryptonite radiation? If so, where? To be honest, that kind of goes against everything I've ever read, but maybe I'm missing something.
Rather, they can, but it's very hard. In the Superman storyline when he was influenced to try and take over with Superman robots, Kyle Rayner needed mental help from J'onn J'onzz because it was so complex and difficult to make.
Originally posted by Q99
Rather, they can, but it's very hard. In the Superman storyline when he was influenced to try and take over with Superman robots, Kyle Rayner needed mental help from J'onn J'onzz because it was so complex and difficult to make.
But that shows that the ring is capable of such. The ring knows everything the guardians know and surely the guardians know the kryptonite compound properties. MM put in Kyle's head to do it, but he wouldn't have to put it in Hal's head. Hal has always been both smarter and a better ring slinger imo. He'd will it and it would come into being. As I've stated, the ring itself has become MUCH more than it has been in the past. It's a sophisticated computer capable of performing actions that its wearer wishes.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Lol. Yes, I've read many a GL comic since 2005. But you aren't answering my question. I want to know if it's something that has any backing or if you're just assuming.
If hal could make kryptonite as easily as you claim then he wouldn't have to make such complicated plans for superman in GL:legacy or he would've created it in their last three fights which he didn't. Heck, new krypton would've been easily subdued if two elite green lantern could produce a very big chunk of kryptonite.
Originally posted by Odekahn
But that shows that the ring is capable of such. The ring knows everything the guardians know and surely the guardians know the kryptonite compound properties. MM put in Kyle's head to do it, but he wouldn't have to put it in Hal's head. Hal has always been both smarter and a better ring slinger imo. He'd will it and it would come into being. As I've stated, the ring itself has become MUCH more than it has been in the past. It's a sophisticated computer capable of performing actions that its wearer wishes.
No, that's an anomaly and can be attributed to PIS. Speculation at its best. Hal has certainly never been shown to have the knowledge of how to create kryptonite AFAIK.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Here you goIf hal could make kryptonite as easily as you claim then he wouldn't have to make such complicated plans for superman in GL:legacy or he would've created it in their last three fights which he didn't. Heck, new krypton would've been easily subdued if two elite green lantern could produce a very big chunk of kryptonite.
No, that's an anomaly and can be attributed to PIS. Speculation at its best. Hal has certainly never been shown to have the knowledge of how to create kryptonite AFAIK.
The ring would/should, though.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Here you go
What's this supposed to prove?
If hal could make kryptonite as easily as you claim then he wouldn't have to make such complicated plans for superman in GL:legacy or he would've created it in their last three fights which he didn't. Heck, new krypton would've been easily subdued if two elite green lantern could produce a very big chunk of kryptonite.
Or maybe he wasn't trying to kill Superman... and if GL did make it, there wouldn't even be a fight which can suck if you're trying to tell a story. Same reason Flash doesn't destroy his foes in a single panel.
No, that's an anomaly and can be attributed to PIS. Speculation at its best. Hal has certainly never been shown to have the knowledge of how to create kryptonite AFAIK.
How is it PIS? Hal has done it before, regardless if it was pre crisis or not... It's not a one time thing and Kyle's showing just proves that it can be done post crisis too. You are the one speculating that GLs cannot do it, and there's more proof that's actually on panel that it can be done no matter if you personally believe it to be PIS or not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Says the scans I produced and if you don't believe it here is superman blue telling the same thingPost crisis and under geoff johns?
Green Lanterns actually affecting matter on a molecular level would beg to differ.
post crisis yes, under johns, no. but then again, he's only been the writer since what, 2004?
Originally posted by Odekahn
Or maybe he wasn't trying to kill Superman... and if GL did, there wouldn't even be a fight which can suck if you're trying to tell a storyl. Same reason Flash doesn't destroy his foes in a single panel.
Or maybe he can't produce it anyway. I don't have to prove a negative that "Prove that hal can't create kryptonite". Its your job to provide proof that he can.
How is it PIS? Hal has done it before, regardless if it was pre crisis or not... It's not a one time thing and Kyle's showing just proves that it can be done post crisis too. You are the one speculating that GLs cannot do it, and there's more proof that's actually on panel that it can be done no matter if you personally believe it to be PIS or not.
Superman has sneezed away a solar system before crisis and he is the same guy as shown after Infinite crisis. Prove that he can't sneeze away a solar system away post crisis. Its PIS because the ring constructs are just light images and doesn't have the intrinsic properties of the matter they resemble. Even if we believe that is true which its not then its kyle doing it with mental instructions of J'onn and as shown in JLA: New Maps of hell he forgets such implants soon after, it isn't usable for normal gls.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Green Lanterns actually affecting matter on a molecular level would beg to differ.post crisis yes, under johns, no. but then again, he's only been the writer since what, 2004?
When? 8 years is a long time to affect some comic character's overall performance. If we go by that route can we use T-vo here?
