Black Adam and Sinestro vs Thor and Hulk

Started by Stoic6 pages

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Hulk is not Lobo. He doesn't have the ability to engage high end lanterns at once casually. Not even close.

Team 2 is far too slow, and Hulk's far too one-dimensional. Sinestro has too many ways of disposing of him. And then its two on one.

How is Lobo not as one dimensional as the Hulk? Name Lobo's powers. I actually think that the Hulk may have more abilities than Lobo has if we begin counting his less than obvious ones. With all of the Hulk's feats, and displays of keeping up with speedier characters, you really have no points in that area. The Hulk is obviously fast enough to keep up with people that the Human eye could barely make out.

I for one know that if he engaged Sinestro, that Sinestro would be back peddling or he would get his head handed to him. If Teth goes brawl for all with him he would wind up on the losing end.

Originally posted by Stoic
How is Lobo not as one dimensional as the Hulk? Name Lobo's powers. I actually think that the Hulk may have more abilities than Lobo has if we begin counting his less than obvious ones. With all of the Hulk's feats, and displays of keeping up with speedier characters, you really have no points in that area. The Hulk is obviously fast enough to keep up with people that the Human eye could barely make out.

I for one know that if he engaged Sinestro, that Sinestro would be back peddling or he would get his head handed to him. If Teth goes brawl for all with him he would wind up on the losing end.

Lobo's not in this thread, so I don't understand your question? The difference between a Sinestro vs Lobo scenario and Sinestro vs Hulk scenario, is that with the former Sinestro has no means of putting his opponent down.

Hulk has great reflexes. As does Thor. Unfortunately, there's levels of speeds. And keeping up with things faster than the human eye can see? That's simply street level.

Adam thinks at perceives at lightspeed and beyond. Neither Hulk or Thor can make that claim.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Hulk is not Lobo. He doesn't have the ability to engage high end lanterns at once casually. Not even close.

Team 2 is far too slow, and Hulk's far too one-dimensional. Sinestro has too many ways of disposing of him. And then its two on one.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
Lobo's not in this thread, so I don't understand your question? The difference between a Sinestro vs Lobo scenario and Sinestro vs Hulk scenario, is that with the former Sinestro has no means of putting his opponent down.

Hulk has great reflexes. As does Thor. Unfortunately, there's levels of speeds. And keeping up with things faster than the human eye can see? That's simply street level.

Adam thinks at perceives at lightspeed and beyond. Neither Hulk or Thor can make that claim.

Sorry but you seem to forget that the Sentry is a far faster than a street level character, and has shown this on panel. This being said, the Hulk would certainly be able to hit either Teth or Sinestro, as would Thor.

When has Hulk kept up with the Sentry? Sentry flew into Hulk extremely fast and hit him. It's not like Hulk moved out of the way. And I've never seen Sentry do this to Hulk:

Yeah, I know it's a What if, but if I saw Sentry do something like that to the Hulk, and the Hulk punching right back, or dodging some punches, then I'd agree he can keep up with speedsters. But to say he's hung with the Sentry, so he has super fast reflexes doesn't really fly.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sorry but you seem to forget that the Sentry is a far faster than a street level character, and has shown this on panel. This being said, the Hulk would certainly be able to hit either Teth or Sinestro, as would Thor.

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Team 2 wins.

Sinestro is the weak link, going up against a brute like Hulk he'd get stomped like Mongul was doing to him if this is Savage Hulk or above

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
When has Hulk kept up with the Sentry? Sentry flew into Hulk extremely fast and hit him. It's not like Hulk moved out of the way. And I've never seen Sentry do this to Hulk:

Yeah, I know it's a What if, but if I saw Sentry do something like that to the Hulk, and the Hulk punching right back, or dodging some punches, then I'd agree he can keep up with speedsters. But to say he's hung with the Sentry, so he has super fast reflexes doesn't really fly.

The Sentry's face met the Hulk's fist like a baseball hits Jeter's baseball bat. It took both speed and reflexes to tag the Sentry on the chin. The idea here is that if the Hulk was able to engage a much faster character than he is on several occasions, I don't see him not being able to do this here. Also Sinestro does not fight in hyper speed (i.e. throwing fifty punches in a second).

Team 2 everytime

Originally posted by Nihilist
Team 2 wins.

Sinestro is the weak link, going up against a brute like Hulk he'd get stomped like Mongul was doing to him if this is Savage Hulk or above

I agree with this 100%. Anyone who thinks Hulk cant hang with Sinestro, or Black Adam, for an extended period of time, is kidding themselves. Id give Hulk the win over Sinestro and a virtual Tie against BA (and Id give Thor the win over both, though a tougher time against BA).

Originally posted by DTM
I agree with this 100%. Anyone who thinks Hulk cant hang with Sinestro, or Black Adam, for an extended period of time, is kidding themselves. Id give Hulk the win over Sinestro and a virtual Tie against BA (and Id give Thor the win over both, though a tougher time against BA).
Sinestro wouldn't want any part of the Hulk. I'd take Hulk over Lobo himself. Hulk is the premiere top tier brick in all of comicdom.

And Id agree with that (well, outside of beings like Doomsday, Kurse and possibly Juggernaut)

Originally posted by DTM
And Id agree with that (well, outside of beings like Doomsday, Kurse and possibly Juggernaut)
Hulk could definitely hang with all of them at his his best (Pak) he'd win pretty easily.

Oh hed hang with them all sure, but not beat any besides possibly Juggs, 2x Thor level Kurse (not 4x) and DoS Doomsday only (HP Doomsday would beat any Hulk IMO)

Sinestro gives Teth a power ring. So now you have a fear/willpower (which ever Sinestro you're going with) powered up Black Adam.

And Sinestro puts a bubble around Hulk's head and expells the oyxgen from his lungs (I don't know if it would work, lol). Or Sinestro throws Hulk around a little pit.

I could see the fight going a little something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRJfvldaNvQ&t=4m4s

Originally posted by Odekahn
Sinestro gives Teth a power ring. So now you have a fear/willpower (which ever Sinestro you're going with) powered up Black Adam.

And Sinestro puts a bubble around Hulk's head and expells the oyxgen from his lungs (I don't know if it would work, lol). Or Sinestro throws Hulk around a little pit.

I could see the fight going a little something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRJfvldaNvQ&t=4m4s

Yeah he does all of this while they just stand there and watch.

Originally posted by DTM
Oh hed hang with them all sure, but not beat any besides possibly Juggs, 2x Thor level Kurse (not 4x) and DoS Doomsday only (HP Doomsday would beat any Hulk IMO)
Hp Doomsday is nowhere near as impressive as HOTM Hulk. He was adapting to attacks that wouldn't cause the Hulk's mighty head to even so much as tilt in another direction.

A HP level Doomsday destroyed Darkseid and Superman, and later took on Orion, Jonn and Superman together and was winning. Those are battle scenes I dont see any Hulk matching.

Originally posted by DTM
A HP level Doomsday destroyed Darkseid and Superman, and later took on Orion, Jonn and Superman together and was winning. Those are battle scenes I dont see any Hulk matching.
Superman wasn't confident and psychologically weak as they come. He was also less powerful than his modern day pre boot version. Darkseid has been dominated by Orion and Superman.

I don't see Orion or Superman even causing HOTM Hulk pain. Doomsday's best wouldn't be enough for the Hulk. He'd have to die to come back for the Hulk and Hulk's perfect to beat him again since he doesn't have limits and can surpass the force he originally used for DD's death.

Well then I think were going to have to agree ti disagree, as I dont see any Hulk short of some massive Cosmic Amp dominating Darkseid and Superman, nor Superman, Orion and MM together.