Originally posted by Galan007
Luke? lol, love it. 👆Just to clarify: is Digi only permitted to use comic book feats for Luke, or is the entire SW genre (ie. novels, films, TV shows, etc.) free game?
As I presented it, it's anything that's canon for him, so it crosses multiple genres. For what it's worth, I'm only using comics and books.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I wasn't misrepresenting, TWF read this thread and he said the fact that the call "echoed throughout every arm of the galaxy" indicates its power
You said he forced them there, which was flatly false in a way that completely changes the feat.
You said he made other telepaths come there, which implied that their telepathy made it harder to "force" them. When, in fact, them being telepaths would help him contact them, and they came of their own volition.
You left out the part about week-long meditation to accomplish it.
I'd call that misrepresenting.
I'm pretty well-versed in Luke (been fan of the SW mythos longer than I've been a comic book fan), and as far as I'm concerned the only people who should be questioning Digi about his tactics are the judges of his and leo's match--and that's only IF he uses a feat that seems questionable, and/or requires a bit more context in order to paint a better picture.
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm pretty well-versed in Luke (been fan of the SW mythos longer than I've been a comic book fan), and as far as I'm concerned the only people who should be questioning Digi about his tactics are the judges of his and leo's match--and that's only IF he uses a feat that seems questionable, and/or requires a bit more context in order to paint a better picture.
i already sent digi a pm. i trust his judgement in this and have no issue with him using luke.
Starkiller's not canon, is he? Anyway, point me to feats and we'll discuss. I didn't hear anything concrete in all of that, and "continent-level TK" raises my eyebrows. Even that respect thread Mike pointed me toward had nothing even close to that level. Because I feel like I'm being circled right now, which wouldn't bother me if the claims and reservations had any evidence attached to them.
I think EU Luke v. Iron Man would be a damn good fight. I'm somewhat obligated to say I think Luke would win based on possible future matches, but it's not a clear fight by any means.
Luke vs Iron Man
http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=844686
Ok, so I read that. What am I supposed to glean from that thread? There's discussion, debate, etc. Just like we'd expect from two opponents who are matched fairly well. The thread formed little to no consensus on the fight, with mixed opinions and people on either side.
It should also be noted that "FTL reflexes" was a popular buzzword, but exactly zero feats were referenced for it (that I saw). Is there something to back that up, or are we just dealing with people who ignore Jedi precog, or those that think a dizzying lightsaber display counts as FTL?
Id, do you think luke is low herald? If so, why specifically?
And if I read that correctly, you were on Tony's side. Or did I misread names and such?
Originally posted by Digi
Ok, so I read that. What am I supposed to glean from that thread? There's discussion, debate, etc. Just like we'd expect from two opponents who are matched fairly well. The thread formed little to no consensus on the fight, with mixed opinions and people on either side.Id, do you think luke is low herald? If so, why specifically?
And if I read that correctly, you were on Tony's side. Or did I misread names and such?
Meyer Lansky is me, I was on Tony's side.
I don't know much of Luke outside his movie appearances. So I don't know where to rank him. But I am constantly reading bloated claims, with little reference.
That topic only served, for you to know where my comments are coming from.
Originally posted by "Id"
But I am constantly reading bloated claims, with little reference.
lol, I know the feeling.
Originally posted by "Id"
That topic only served, for you to know where my comments are coming from.
But as far as you can tell, you're in agreement with me, yeah? Even to the point of saying Tony would likely beat him. I don't know what kind of standard that board has for feat scrutiny, but I understand the microscope of tourneys. I have feats, actual honest-to-Thanos feats that I won't embellish or take out of context, or apply wildly in unproven or illogical ways (For example: "He could just teleport Tony's head off"😉. Literally my only fear is accidentally bringing up some obscurely non-canon reference and having one of the SW crowd yell at me for it.
I've read, viewed, and absorbed enough EU that I can say almost without reservation that Luke would get his **** pushed in at low herald.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
SW fanwank at its finest. I always believed those blasters were sublight there.
TK... there is a guy who is considered weaker than Luke at his prime yet he was ripping Star Destroyers from the orbit...
However, I think Luke is fine. A bit borderline? Maybe...
Starkiller tipped it downward using some of its own momentum, and from a fairly low orbit (if it can even be called orbit...the classic scene of that has it probably no more than a few hundreds meters up. "Ripped from orbit" is the wrong way to describe it. It implies he pulled down a stationary SD from space. Unless you're referencing something else.
It's also not Luke, who possesses no feats like that, so there's some dubious abc logic if you want to use an unrelated character's feat and a subjective comparison so say Luke's too powerful. Hell, it took Luke and a group of (iirc) about 30 Jedi to do the same in the Jedi Academy trilogy.
SK's also non-canon iirc.
Leo - I do hope you read through the last page or so. I think I've been fully vindicated in my assertions, either with unfounded assertions being exposed or by those who are in complete agreement with me. But I want this to be as transparent as possible.
I've gone through the testing process before - nothing new there - but never while a match was going on. So it's frustrating that the debate has started for me, but in no ways that count.