Originally posted by hunbu04
Olympus take itOdin and Zeus tie
Athena> sif
Apollo> Balder
Ares> tyr
Pluto>=Hella
Hera>= Loki
Typhon>Executional
Thor>=Herc
Odin beats Zeus IMO. And I dont even think it's an opinion that Thor >> Hercules. Also Loki beats Hera also. All the other ones I agree. But also Asgard has insanely powerful artifacts. Asgard wins easily.
Originally posted by hunbu04Odin has superior showings and feats. Thor blows Herc out of the water. Loki wins. Hela is flat out superior to Pluto. Factor in the Destroyer and things get really ugly.
Olympus take itOdin and Zeus tie
Athena> sif
Apollo> Balder
Ares> tyr
Pluto>=Hella
Hera>= Loki
Typhon>Executional
Thor>=Herc
Originally posted by zopzopSo your evidence is a scan where they looked equal is proof Zeus wins. Who cares if they sided with Odin that means he's smarter than Zeus. That actually goes against your case.
In the past, this is true. The present is what counts :You know how the winner of that fight was decided? Ten other Skyfathers had to step in and side with Odin.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin has superior showings and feats. Thor blows Herc out of the water. Loki wins. Hela is flat out superior to Pluto. Factor in the Destroyer and things get really ugly.
Umm.
Why are you now saying Odin beats Zeus due to superior feats? When just the other day, you said portrayal is more important?
Pak has gone out of his way to ensure that Zeus gets the proper respect.
Zeus beat Galactus quickly--while somewhat amped. Whereas Odin defeated himself against Galactus. Ok, sure, there are questions remaining as to where exactly Galactus was powerwise in the two events, but at the very least the answer should be obvious that they are peers in some way going by common opponents in recent years.
Not to mention, during the Fear Itself tie ins, Odin and Zeus were shown to get into what looked like it broke out in a slight scuffle; Zeus was threw a punch at Odin's way and Odin was either parrying with the staff in his hand or just dodging and preparing to strike back.
Either way, regardless of whether it didn't break out into a full scale fight, the narration treated them as equals, saying when Skyfather's argue, the Earth itself shakes.
Zeus vs Odin, tie.
You make it sound like Odin needed ten other skyfathers. One more would have been sufficient, or are claiming Zeus is tem times more powerful than Odin? But also if we are going by fights spiderman is >>> than Hulk. Feats wise Odin blows Zeus out of the water.
That being said, I tend to agree Odin and Zeus are probably fairly equal now, assuming Odin doesn't use any of his artifacts.
Originally posted by zopzop
Pluto can definitely take Hela too. That skank had problems with Enchantress and Darwin. I've never seen Pluto sink that low.
Hela's also nearly claimed Thor and Odin's immortal souls for her own. Darwin being a plot device Omega Mutant or whatever the hell he's classified as doesn't make Hela "weak".
Hela's got overall better feats than Pluto.
Originally posted by CosmicCometBecause they are portrayed as equalsl Odin just has more options. I don't think he stomps Zeus but equal raw power doesn't prove sh-t. People seem to think more power equals auto win. It doesn't.
Umm.Why are you now saying Odin beats Zeus due to superior feats? When not too long ago, you said portrayal is more important?
Pak has gone out of his way to ensure that Zeus gets the proper respect.
Zeus beat Galactus quickly--while somewhat amped. Whereas Odin defeated himself against Galactus. Ok, sure, there are questions remaining as to where exactly Galactus was powerwise in the two events, but at the very least the answer should be obvious that they are peers in some way going by common opponents in recent years.
Not to mention, during the Fear Itself tie ins, Odin and Zeus were shown to get into what looked like it broke out in a slight scuffle; Zeus was threw a punch at Odin's way and Odin was either parrying with the staff in his hand or just dodging and preparing to strike back.
Either way, regardless of whether it didn't break out into a full scale fight, the narration treated them as equals, saying when Skyfather's argue, the Earth itself shakes.
Zeus vs Odin, tie.
Odin's wiser, Zeus is more headstrong, has far more exotic attacks, can amp his size, can amp himself through his own land, can draw his fellow asgardians into himself, has stopped time (though he won't do so in combat it's just an example).
Zeus was amped. Galactus wasn't even defeated.
Odin has the edge while their power is roughly equal. That's it. It's a close battle and has been portrayed as such I just favor Odin based on his showings and demeanor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So your evidence is a scan where they looked equal is proof Zeus wins. Who cares if they sided with Odin that means he's smarter than Zeus. That actually goes against your case.
It more than that and you now it Quan. Odin was ADAMANT that they wipe the planet clean of humans to stop the Serpent from drawing his power from their fear. And Zeus wasn't going to allow that to happen because Olympus was currently residing on Earth.
The matter was only settled when the other Skyfathers sided with Odin and said it was an internal Asgardian matter and if Olympus interfered the other pantheons would step in.
In this thread, Asgard doesn't have the other pantheons to back it up.
